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   / Manual #51  
Actually, how I could see the concept being the most useful would be as a fully functional website [whether within, associated with, or non-associated with TBN]. Of course, the information would still be originally sourced as funpilot just mentioned or similar methods.

i.e.
First page: pictures with [or as] buttons of each general model
next page: category buttons: Maintenance Charts, Engine, Steering......
Then: subcatagory buttons [if required]: Fuel, Carburation, Valves, Exhaust..........
And finally: the exact topics under the appropriate catagory or subcatagory: even better if it has links to pictures, videos, discussions here, or even similar topics on the site. Of course, the same topic could be referenced from many different points [the identical fuel filter might be found on 4 different machines and be referenced both by a maintenance chart or a fuel issue].

Actual recommended maintence topics could even be separted from improvements by titles or columns on each page or how about color coded: from standard procedure - to common obvious improvement: to radical [not sure if any of mine qualify for that yet, but getting there! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif ]

Too bad PT wasn't supportive of the concept, while they have great service, I just can't envision them taking it to the level I just mentioned (though they do have a good point that only they could utilize [short of their support anyway] the ID number, you don't know for sure what idiosyncracies or exact parts your unit has without it).

Anything short of something that can work with multiple layers and overlapping references I can't see being too much quicker than a search as we already know it.

A neat side advantage, blank spots would be really obvious, so for several monthes I think we'd have some new topics or certainly revisit many discussions. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Manual #52  
Actually, how I could see the concept being the most useful would be as a fully functional website [whether within, associated with, or non-associated with TBN]. Of course, the information would still be originally sourced as funpilot just mentioned or similar methods.

i.e.
First page: pictures with [or as] buttons of each general model
next page: category buttons: Maintenance Charts, Engine, Steering......
Then: subcatagory buttons [if required]: Fuel, Carburation, Valves, Exhaust..........
And finally: the exact topics under the appropriate catagory or subcatagory: even better if it has links to pictures, videos, discussions here, or even similar topics on the site. Of course, the same topic could be referenced from many different points [the identical fuel filter might be found on 4 different machines and be referenced both by a maintenance chart or a fuel issue].

Actual recommended maintence topics could even be separted from improvements by titles or columns on each page or how about color coded: from standard procedure - to common obvious improvement: to radical [not sure if any of mine qualify for that yet, but getting there! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif ]

Too bad PT wasn't supportive of the concept, while they have great service, I just can't envision them taking it to the level I just mentioned (though they do have a good point that only they could utilize [short of their support anyway] the ID number, you don't know for sure what idiosyncracies or exact parts your unit has without it).

Anything short of something that can work with multiple layers and overlapping references I can't see being too much quicker than a search as we already know it.

A neat side advantage, blank spots would be really obvious, so for several monthes I think we'd have some new topics or certainly revisit many discussions. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Manual #53  
<font color="blue">It seems too many people have gotten "bad advice" from discussion forums </font>

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I wish she would have elaborated. This is the only place I know of with a PT forum and I think almost any questions here are quite intelligently discussed. Of course, I have given plenty of questionable advice here, but always add fair warning if so. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

On the positive side, if everything is gleaned from discussions here, and no pictures or text is pasted from their manual, I don't see copyright issues [probably would need to have the standard "non-associated disclaimer" though].

I really do wish they'd provide some feedback here. I'm sure they are too busy to be making forum posts, yet I'd think it'd save quite some burden on incoming calls and repetitive questions.
 
   / Manual #54  
<font color="blue">It seems too many people have gotten "bad advice" from discussion forums </font>

/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I wish she would have elaborated. This is the only place I know of with a PT forum and I think almost any questions here are quite intelligently discussed. Of course, I have given plenty of questionable advice here, but always add fair warning if so. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

On the positive side, if everything is gleaned from discussions here, and no pictures or text is pasted from their manual, I don't see copyright issues [probably would need to have the standard "non-associated disclaimer" though].

I really do wish they'd provide some feedback here. I'm sure they are too busy to be making forum posts, yet I'd think it'd save quite some burden on incoming calls and repetitive questions.
 
   / Manual #55  
<font color="blue">In light of that, we would like to offer to host this project. It sounds like what you guys are looking for is a place where you can submit "articles" (content of various kinds) and have them be available at all times without having to search through forums. </font>

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Thanks Muhammad!
It does seem somehow appropriate for the PT forum to pave the way at that: considering how [I think] we have more experiments on our machines than most, why not an "electronic" experiment too! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Manual #56  
<font color="blue">In light of that, we would like to offer to host this project. It sounds like what you guys are looking for is a place where you can submit "articles" (content of various kinds) and have them be available at all times without having to search through forums. </font>

/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Thanks Muhammad!
It does seem somehow appropriate for the PT forum to pave the way at that: considering how [I think] we have more experiments on our machines than most, why not an "electronic" experiment too! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Manual #57  
<font color="red"> i.e. if I'd be liable for copyright infringement for putting any of their information on a site, then I'm not going there... </font>

Respecting copyrights is important and a always needs to be considered when creating a web site.

I looked over the Manual PT provided when I purchased my machine in 2003. I found no indication that any of the pages have been copyrighted.
 
   / Manual #58  
<font color="red"> i.e. if I'd be liable for copyright infringement for putting any of their information on a site, then I'm not going there... </font>

Respecting copyrights is important and a always needs to be considered when creating a web site.

I looked over the Manual PT provided when I purchased my machine in 2003. I found no indication that any of the pages have been copyrighted.
 
   / Manual #59  
I’ll second that, thanks Muhammad for the offer. What better place to piece this together than TBN the original source.

If the company is going to discourage this idea, you would think they would at least monitor this site for potential improvements, and or problems with their equipment. If this were my product I would want to stay on top of all feedback.

Thats how a great product becomes even better.
 
   / Manual #60  
I’ll second that, thanks Muhammad for the offer. What better place to piece this together than TBN the original source.

If the company is going to discourage this idea, you would think they would at least monitor this site for potential improvements, and or problems with their equipment. If this were my product I would want to stay on top of all feedback.

Thats how a great product becomes even better.
 

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