Marijuana on the job

[Jstpssng]

How long does it stay with creams and ointments?

Costco even sells a product called Hempz.

You do realize that Hempz, as well as other similar products contain no intoxicating substances.

 

[ultrarunner]

You do realize that Hempz, as well as other similar products contain no intoxicating substances.

No… didn’t realize and I don’t know much on the subject and the reason I asked…

I do know poppy seeds used on baked goods have caused problems for the occupational medicine group…

Aside from an elderly relative who enjoyed cocktails there is no one in my family or extended family involved with drugs and no one has ever been involved with the law outside of jury duty.

I remember cupcakes and suckers laced with marijuana was a big deal in the news at one time so in my simple thought process thinking there must be more ways than smoking to be under the influence.

 

[rontaki]

I question why HR/Ownership would willingly put themselves in the position of tremendous liability blacklisting an employee industry wide for refusing to RANDOMLY pee in a cup with the operative word being randomly.

It makes no sense when there is no correlation of cause and the payout could be millions…

Following the mine logic how can the state prohibit me from doing a criminal background check as part of the qualifying to lease a 2.5 million dollar property?

And if I as a Landlord provide a negative reference on a current or past tenant I am open to expensive litigation and the tenant receives free government legal aid.

• Landlords cannot screen applicants for criminal history during the advertisement, application, selection, or eviction process.
  
  
• No Blanket Bans:
  Landlords cannot indicate that individuals with criminal histories will not be considered for housing.
  
  
• No Requiring Disclosure:
  Landlords cannot require applicants to disclose their criminal history.
  
  
• No Negative Actions:
  Landlords cannot refuse to rent, terminate a tenancy, or demand a higher security deposit or rent based on criminal history

No wonder the majority of voters voted the way they did. I doubt the inanity described above can be changed, though. "You can't fix stupid"

 

[Looking4new]

How long does it stay with creams and ointments?

Costco even sells a product called Hempz.

Creams and ointments don't usually have THC. They do have CBD.

 

[Looking4new]

ultrarunner; in this country even if you have fired an employee for drug use after sending him/her to rehab twice, when a future employer calls for a reference you cannot say anything derogative about the prospect.
You can't say , "if you value the transmission in your trucks don't hire him/her.", or anything like that. Can't say that they showed up to work stoned/drunk every day.

 

[ultrarunner]

ultrarunner; in this country even if you have fired an employee for drug use after sending him/her to rehab twice, when a future employer calls for a reference you cannot say anything derogative about the prospect.
You can't say , "if you value the transmission in your trucks don't hire him/her.", or anything like that. Can't say that they showed up to work stoned/drunk every day.

Exactly and why many will not give any reference or limit to dates of hire.

Maybe the mining industry is different but saying failure to pee in this cup now means you will never work in this industry is how lawyers get rich.

 

[34Willys]

We dealt with that situation by either asking the former employer, or giving an answer to a prospective employer of "Would you rehire this employee again" (knowing what you know now)?
Patrick

 

[ultrarunner]

We do the same asking would you rent to this person again…

Fewer are willing to answer and silence can say a lot…

My employer uses a third party online employee verification firm… just the minimum factual information provided with no possibility of asking a random question.

Heck… leadership will not even say someone is away on maternity leave because it has medical privacy implications…

The most you will get is the away dates and who to contact for assistance…

 

[D&D]

One thing I never understood, was one place I worked at that had a prohibition against pot use. I think it had to do with working with "Challenged Persons" and that the company got federal funding,... a bit of the two.... Anyway, the turnover there was pretty high. So we were always in a state of hiring people. What I never understood was, it was clear, the company didn't want to hire anyone that smoked pot. It was clear there was going to be a drug test after the passed interview. The lit told them that, and we, the interviewers told them that. There WAS going to be a drug test. And after a while, I would side chat with the applicant, privately, ask the applicant to please not waste our time, if you can't pass. Apply again, later if you really want the job. And they would all go, "Its okay, I'M CLEAN." And then 70% of them would fail the test. And these were people I wanted to hire.

This was a huge drain on everyone. To always be in a state of compensating for that lost person.

And even after the 90 day, and under full hire, if there was an event, "accident," one would get drug tested. And 20% failed then.

So, I don't get it.

I guess there are two things;
!) Everyone thinks they have a right to do whatever they please without any consequences.
2) You can't fix stupid.

 

[WoodChuckDad]

Nor will I ever return to the U.S. of A. As much as I want to go to Alaska, I will wait until they become our 11th Province.

What is a province?