Massive storm clean up

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Just my opinion but I wouldn’t worry about trying haul logs out for any useful purpose unless there are long logs without any limbs
I wouldnt either and have actualy milled this type of pine. From what I see that's all junk wood. You might get a 9' section out of the base of the tree or a single limb but nothing that a log buying or log truck is going to buy. Even that single (what I believe is a black cherry) is split and could only make 2 or 3 logs.
 
   / Massive storm clean up #32  
After the derecho 3 years ago, my town hired contractors to pickup all the storm damaged trees that were on public property. So everybody dragged their trees to the curb.

The dump trucks dumped them and a track-loader pushed them into one large pile about 400' by 200' and an average of 12' high.

A huge tub grinder, excavator and track-loader ground it all up and spit the chips into trucks to be hauled away.
 
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   / Massive storm clean up #33  
Any biomass-for-something plants in the region?

Bruce
 
   / Massive storm clean up #34  
We had a micro-burst blow through here a while back.
It touched down in our back forty and took down a swath of white pine then continued across the hills and knocked down 2 neighbors entire forests surrounding their homes.
Miraculously neither house was damaged.
It continued on for another few hundred yard before petering out.
According to the local power company the speed was clocked at over 200 mph.
The forces were so strong that it literally ripped red oak trees in half leaving splintered snags 15 feet high with all the topped facing north.
Very little hand logging could be done and feller bunchers seemed to be the tool of choice for removal.
Total length of the blow was maybe 1 -1.5 miles and about 50 yards wide.
 
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Just my opinion but I wouldn’t worry about trying haul logs out for any useful purpose unless there are long logs without any limbs. Just getting trees untangled and limbed out is a lot of work. I also wouldn’t mess with mulching or grinding up any.

It’s not my call, it’s the property owners call. So far the consensus seems to be get the logs out of here. These are people worth in excess of 100 million. They don’t touch anything, they tell other people, like me, to do what they want done.

2 years ago, I chipped logs for them for about a week. We had 2 piles of chips the size of 2-car garages. They use the chips for their extensive walking trail network.
A track loader with a thumb would work well if you don’t have to track very far. One advantage of a tractor is a little bit better ground speed. The less hand work and chainsaw work the better.

I don’t have to track far. There’s really only 3 large areas of extensive damage. I think I could plant myself in those areas and just have at it until each is done. I am trying to line up my helpers as I type.
When I helped with the wife’s nephews place I just drove up to a pile and dug in with the forks and hauled off what I could, and did this over and over. There was one tangled mess by a shed that required work with a chainsaw and pole saw. That was slow going and exhausting. I‘d shove everything out of the way and burn it or let it rot.

This is more like large logs piled atop each other.
The amount of branches is mind boggling.

Reminds me of a hurricane clean-up.

Will be out of town to visit some friends, then possibly starting next week. Property owners still weighing options.
 
   / Massive storm clean up #36  
I wouldnt either and have actualy milled this type of pine. From what I see that's all junk wood. You might get a 9' section out of the base of the tree or a single limb but nothing that a log buying or log truck is going to buy. Even that single (what I believe is a black cherry) is split and could only make 2 or 3 logs.
Chipping all that white pine in warm weather will have sap dripping from the chipper. Good chance the chipper will get clogged with the gooey mess.
 
   / Massive storm clean up #38  
The state cut out 2 trees from road in front of me. The piled limbs in my neighbors yard, they told me they would get them the next day which was last Tuesday. They are still there.
 
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I wouldnt either and have actualy milled this type of pine. From what I see that's all junk wood. You might get a 9' section out of the base of the tree or a single limb but nothing that a log buying or log truck is going to buy. Even that single (what I believe is a black cherry) is split and could only make 2 or 3 logs.
Keep in mind what I showed in the pictures is about 1/50th of what there is to clean up. The drone aerial video shows 300+ trees down.
I’m planning on hauling the logs off property to get rid of them at the property owners direction, not mine.
My friend owns a Mack tri-axle log truck and will haul any full load of logs for $300/load.
 
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Chipping all that white pine in warm weather will have sap dripping from the chipper. Good chance the chipper will get clogged with the gooey mess.
That’s not going to happen, but appreciate the concern.
Right now it’s more the owners are experiencing an almost PTSD from their property looking like it was destroyed by war.
This week, the groundskeepers are just clearing the immediate house yards, swimming pool area, barn yard areas, etc.
Next week, the focus will become finding a way to get access to the farm fields, the emergency rear exit, and across the railroad tracks to the river. 128 acres.
 

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