Mowing Max 25/28 MMM with backhoe subrame?

[robbieo11]

Items 1 and 4 are removed drawbar can stay as it needs to hold up deck pin A is removed turnbuckle flops around to end of 3point lift arm. They attach to bottom of bhoe
Look at attached pic down lo just at end o 3point arms it is pinned to backhoe

 

[Shift4200]

Items 1 and 4 are removed drawbar can stay as it needs to hold up deck pin A is removed turnbuckle flops around to end of 3point lift arm. They attach to bottom of bhoe
Look at attached pic down lo just at end o 3point arms it is pinned to backhoe

That's a big ol hunk o wood on the front of that rig. Nicely done!

-J

 

[robbieo11]

Here it is the vid taking bh off and on hope it helps a I will make a vid for the mower next week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FVIlh2asoI&feature=youtu.be

 

[Browneyesvictim]

Here it is the vid taking bh off and on hope it helps a I will make a vid for the mower next week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FVIlh2asoI&feature=youtu.be

Great looking video Rob! Nice that you did it all in one cut without any editing except for your "corrections" at the end.

Next time try suspending the lower 3-pt arms by the turnbuckles hanging on the pins of the upper 3-pt arms rather than them dragging in the dirt, and having to zip-tie the turnbuckles. You might have to adjust them a bit but they will fit.

Oh. And my Max is back at the dealer getting the mower lift/height brackets installed back on.:confused2:

 

[Browneyesvictim]

I got my tractor back from the dealer but the adjustment is still not right for the mower deck. Robbieo11, I know you are working on a video of installing the mower, and I am looking forward to that, but here are my questions in regard to setting up the tractor 3-pt linkage in relation to the cut height.

When I raise the height control lever to the fully raised position, it will not raise high enough to install the pin in the top 2 positions. This is true even with the Lever Adjustment Stop completely backed off. There is a set-up procedure on setting the upper stop in the Owner’s Manual on page 110, and that’s fine, but there has to be further set-up instructions for adjusting the dimensions for the throw/stroke of the 3-pt lift arms. Is there something in the Service Manual on this? I am only able to obtain those 2 heights by manually raising the 3-pt lift arms up to get the pin in. I would like to think that operators should have complete range of cut height by the 3-pt adjustment lever.

At the fully raised position of the control lever does your mower come up to the rubber bumper stops on the bottom of the tractor? Mine did not, so I raised mine fully (by force) and installed the pin at the 4” position, then I tightened the Nylock nuts on the mower suspension/tension rods until it did. Now the mower deck height is true in relation to the pin height. But again, I don’t have the full range of height with the hydraulics of the 3-pt. Only by manually forcing the 3-point arms up and stick the pin in either of the top 2 holes can I achieve and hold the deck in those locations as the pin rests on the draw bar.

The forward suspension mounting brackets (forward of the mower deck) of the mower have multiple bolt hole locations. I assume this is for locating the mower deck (fore-aft) correctly amongst different sizes of tractors. Where are your forward bracket bolts?

 

[robbieo11]

. Might need to have adjustment done. Attached pics from manuals to help

 

[jimpen]

If you have the BH mounted, did you take off the hydraulic links and put it back into the bypass mode?

 

[robbieo11]

ahh did I show that in the vid?? here is a pic from manual on that

 

[Browneyesvictim]

View attachment 372035View attachment 372035View attachment 372035. Might need to have adjustment done. Attached pics from manuals to help

Nope. As I mentioned, I can raise it fully by adjusting the nuts on the rods, but that does nothing for the height pin bracket at the rear.
Yes, I already have the stop bolt at the lever backed off completely
Rob- I appreciate the pages, but I have all my ops manuals and I have been through them pretty thoroughly and I am confident I'm not overlooking a setup or adjustment there.

I did however answer my last question by reading closer that the multiple hole locations are for adjusting the ANGLE of the deck.

I do not have the BH mounted and yes the loopback hose is connected.

If you look underneath the seat and right rear fender you will see the shaft for the adjustment lever of the 3-pt hitch, but there is also a cantilevered threaded adjustment rod along side it too. There is nothing on this in the ops book.

 

[robbieo11]

the threated rods you speak of are the limits for the 3 point when they hit them the shut off the lift. this may be the issue you can attempt to adjust them.

 

[Browneyesvictim]

the threated rods you speak of are the limits for the 3 point when they hit them the shut off the lift. this may be the issue you can attempt to adjust them.

Before I go fooling with that, I would rather fully understand the proper adjustment procedure. I'm hoping this would be in a service manual which I don't have.

 

[roughcut]

So I'm a bit confused. When I got my max 28 with the mmm it did not come with that bracket with the different holes for the different heights. I just have a set point that I lower the 3ph to and mow. Did my dealer not give me everything I needed. It mows great without that bracket with the different hole settings. My dealer also told me that the mower could not be operated with the backhoe attached. Not sure I would want to use either implement with the other on anyway but...

 

[Browneyesvictim]

If you have the Mahindra 60" mower it should in fact have those parts. It can work- as you have experienced- without it, but it allows you to set your mower to a consistent cut height without guessing with the lever. Do you have the manual that came with your mower deck?

You can have the mower on and even be able to mow with the backhoe on, but you are limited to only the fully raised and pinned position at 4" cut height. As you said... not that you would want to, but you can.

 

[Browneyesvictim]

After we just bought the Max to go with the new property, there was an incident. I had cut down the tall grass with the brush hog and mmm a few time myself to make sure there were no "surprises" lurking in the weeds to hit. Then one day, I let the missus in the seat to let her mow happily along. Now it just so happens this was the same day I took the picture that is now my avatar. After several hours when she was done mowing and parked, I noticed something different about that linkage at the drawbar.






To this day I do not know what caused this, and probably never will. My dealer said I had to have hit something. There was no smoking gun to say otherwise, so my wallet is lighter versus a warranty issue. So what I am saying is all this bracketry was fixed/replaced once before. The wife hasn't been on the tractor since.

 

[robbieo11]

uploading rough vid please stand by link coming

 

[robbieo11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=400E08Q79Pw

 

[Browneyesvictim]

I just watched on my smartphone but I can say for sure my lift arms dont come up that high.

 

[robbieo11]

Lookmat turnbucket screw it in and put the in at bottom in the higher notch let turn bucket lift links for 3 point hitch have two holes make sure they are in upper holes

 

[robbieo11]

3rd pic down shows the lower portion of the links in upper hole

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To this day I do not know what caused this, and probably never will. My dealer said I had to have hit something. There was no smoking gun to say otherwise, so my wallet is lighter versus a warranty issue. So what I am saying is all this bracketry was fixed/replaced once before. The wife hasn't been on the tractor since.[/QUOTE]

 

[Browneyesvictim]

We are ALL Wrong!
Now that I have the appropriate manuals and it is all much clearer. First of all, adjustment of the feedback link rod was definitely needed to get my tractor lift arms raising as high as they should at 4.0 inches. Secondly there is a SEPERATE and DIFFERENT drawbar used when mounting the BH with the mower attached. It is all spelled out in the MB60 Operators Manual. Thirdly, there is separate mower linkage kit that is necessary to gain the lift height (MHM649) to allow for the additional spacer.