max load on a Big Tex 14GN-28+5?

[Sampey01]

Does anyone know the max load on a Big Tex 14GN-28+5? Their site states it's GVWR is 15,900# and GAWR is 7000# each axle. Trailer weight is 5340#, so if you subject that from 15,900# you get 10,560". Give me only 10,560# to carry on trailer. Is this correct?
Thanks

 

[LD1]

10,560 is how I would figure it.

But there is no hard line in the sand when it comes to figuring these things out.

Bottom line, without scales, its hard to figure. You need to keep the weight over each axle less than 7k. So 14k combined for the pair of axles is max. But the total load on the trailer is supported by both the axles AND the hitch. So I assume they get their 15,900# GVWR cause they are assuming 1900# tongue weight.

Either way, 10.5k is a good number for a 14k trailer IMO

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yea, about 10,500# max....

Chris

 

[Sampey01]

I have to haul a 5065E with MX8 cutter. Tractors weights 5500# and MX8 is about 1700#.

Also, How does it handle the load with single tandems instead of duals? I try figure out if I would get the singles vs the duals. Cost savings.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I have to haul a 5065E with MX8 cutter. Tractors weights 5500# and MX8 is about 1700#.

Also, How does it handle the load with single tandems instead of duals? I try figure out if I would get the singles vs the duals. Cost savings.

I would stay away from duals. I had a 25,000# gvwr trailer the same size as your looking at. It had duals and was a pain. I hate dually trucks also so take that into consideration.

Tires were more expensive due to the odd size vs the 235/85/16 tires my now triple axle with singles uses.

I would take triple axle trailer any day of the week over one with duals. Servicing the inner brakes, tires, and bearings were a pain on the dually trailer.

Chris

 

[LD1]

It will handle the load just fine as long as you say under 10.5k. And with your tractor and cutter coming in at 9200, I think you will be just fine.

Duals are for heavier loads. And usually the trailer is built heavier (and heavier axles). Dual tandems are usually 24k trailers. My dual tandem has a GVWR of 29,xxx, a max payload of 24k, and an empty weight of ~6500#. It would be overkill and money wasted if you never plan to haul anything heavier than your 5065e and cutter.

 

[CJONE]

That's only 7200? more than enough trailer esp because it is a gooseneck. I have never had any issue with the single wheels. In fact I had more issues by far with the dual wheels loosening up with heavy loads. Switched to a 3 axle gooseneck and never had another tire or axle issue. Hauled between 14k and 16k with 0 issues. The trailer was gross rated at 21000 and it ended up at 22000 with 2600lbs on the pin so about 20000 on the 3 axles. Best set up I have had for larger loads other than a Semi. CJ

 

[LD1]

Typo on my part. I meant 7200# and not 9200#:confused2:

 

[Sampey01]

I would stay away from duals. I had a 25,000# gvwr trailer the same size as your looking at. It had duals and was a pain. I hate dually trucks also so take that into consideration.

Tires were more expensive due to the odd size vs the 235/85/16 tires my now triple axle with singles uses.

I would take triple axle trailer any day of the week over one with duals. Servicing the inner brakes, tires, and bearings were a pain on the dually trailer.


Chris

I drive a F-350 with duals. I use it to pull my 40' toyhauler. I like having the dual wheels on the truck to handle the weight in the invite of a blow out. I like to cost saving of going with singles on the trailer......

 

[Sampey01]

It will handle the load just fine as long as you say under 10.5k. And with your tractor and cutter coming in at 9200, I think you will be just fine.

Duals are for heavier loads. And usually the trailer is built heavier (and heavier axles). Dual tandems are usually 24k trailers. My dual tandem has a GVWR of 29,xxx, a max payload of 24k, and an empty weight of ~6500#. It would be overkill and money wasted if you never plan to haul anything heavier than your 5065e and cutter.

I agree. It will only haul the tractor and cutter. May get a batwing finishing mower later but it will still be within the weight range.

 

[Sampey01]

I used my friends dual tandem yesterday to haul the tractor and it pulled good but it was ruff. It was even worst when the trailer didn't have a load on it. I wish I had a friend that has a single tandem that I could use to see how it handles.
My biggest concern is being top heavy. I would think the duals would help on this.

Thanks for all the info guys.

 

[LD1]

The singles would help with the rough ride. Not for the fact that there are less tires, but for the fact that it is a lighter trailer, and would be sprung accordingly.

Kinda like the difference between a 1-ton truck being used to haul 500# vs a 1/2 ton being used to haul 500#

 

[CJONE]

I used my friends dual tandem yesterday to haul the tractor and it pulled good but it was ruff. It was even worst when the trailer didn't have a load on it. I wish I had a friend that has a single tandem that I could use to see how it handles.
My biggest concern is being top heavy. I would think the duals would help on this.

Thanks for all the info guys.

That was/is a major consideration if you are driving a lot of miles empty. The gooseneck will slap/buck more than a bumper pull. I would let the air out of the tires when I got unloaded if I was going more than 50 miles empty. When I picked up the trailer in Indiana it actually made me sick by the time I got into Michigan until I figured out the trick of airing the tires down to 30PSI. But for hauling heavy the gooseneck will be more forgiving and let you haul more weight without being as critical on loading. CJ

 

[RedDog]

I used my friends dual tandem yesterday to haul the tractor and it pulled good but
My biggest concern is being top heavy. I would think the duals would help on this.

Thanks for all the info guys.

Duals would help with that, but so would a low-profile trailer like the Big Tex you are interested in. A low profile trailer helps considerably with sway.

My trailer is low profile tandem duals, but my equipment is heavier than yours.

I had a tri axle trailer before and will never get another one.

 

[schmism]

Does anyone know the max load on a Big Tex 14GN-28+5? Their site states it's GVWR is 15,900# and GAWR is 7000# each axle. Trailer weight is 5340#, so if you subject that from 15,900# you get 10,560". Give me only 10,560# to carry on trailer. Is this correct?
Thanks

your neglecting weight transferred to the tow vehicle.

for GN that can be as high as 25% (typical is 15-20%)

IF you assume a pin weight of 20% (15900*.2) = 3180

14000 -5340 +3180 = 11840 net max load.

depending on interpretation you might push that to 15900-5340+3180 = 13740(-1) at that net cargo weight, the trailer (when hitched to the truck) would scale (weighed at the trailer axles) at 15899 (1 lb under GVWR) although you would be over max GAWR.

even at 11840 lbs cargo on the trailer, you have a very real possibility of being over your GAWR for the real axle of the truck with a 3180 pin weight. This is why you may see hotshoters running no rear bed because they want to maximize pin weight to maximize payload on the trailer.

 

[Sampey01]

Well here is my setup.
I went with a Big Tex 14GN single tandems. I found this one second hand that's is a 2014 that was used three times and only paid $5000 for it. The trailer handles the load and pulls great.

 

[Xfaxman]

:thumbsup: Good deal :thumbsup: