Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy?

   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #11  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

There are quick attach hydraulic connectors made that can be connected with pressure in the system. They are somewhat more costly than the ones provided by PT and you would need to buy a set for the tractor and for each attachment.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #12  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

There are quick attach hydraulic connectors made that can be connected with pressure in the system. They are somewhat more costly than the ones provided by PT and you would need to buy a set for the tractor and for each attachment.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #13  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

You are better off adding a hydraulic circuit dedicated to the extra function of the 4n1 bucket or minibucket, that way you never have to detach the quick-attach plate hoses. This would also solve the problem of having the lever for the auxiliary function in such an awkward spot.

The following threads show some ideas:
Joystick circuit selector button
Electric Selector Valve
electric hydraulic selector

Although I personally would rather put another manual control sticking up through the dashboard on the left side, so I could use my left hand to control the curl of the bucket on the minihoe. The electric switch is an easier modification.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #14  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

You are better off adding a hydraulic circuit dedicated to the extra function of the 4n1 bucket or minibucket, that way you never have to detach the quick-attach plate hoses. This would also solve the problem of having the lever for the auxiliary function in such an awkward spot.

The following threads show some ideas:
Joystick circuit selector button
Electric Selector Valve
electric hydraulic selector

Although I personally would rather put another manual control sticking up through the dashboard on the left side, so I could use my left hand to control the curl of the bucket on the minihoe. The electric switch is an easier modification.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #15  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

This problem has been around for a while. Hydraulic lock, which is to much pressure on the quick connect to disconnect or connect. With the pump running , you will probably not be able to disconnect, unless you install the disconnect under pressure couplers as mentioned by someone. It is a good idea to install male and female quick disconnects on the machine, and all attachments. You then couple the unused lines together, for several reasons. First one is to equalize pressure in the two lines. The second one is to keep the quick connects coupled to help keep them clean. Heat poses another problem. If you couple two lines from a cylinder together, heat may build up enough pressure to prevent you from disconnecting. Even if the two lines are left uncoupled, heat buildup may prevent you from coupling. You then have to relieve the pressure by tapping the ball inside the coupler, or unscrew the coupler fitting. Another situation may also occur, and that is, if you unplug the disconnects and they are pointing up, the coupler may fill with water, and when the cylinder cools, a vacuum is created and can suck that water into the line, and then you will have to deal with that. I believe there are two solutions that may help. The disconnect under pressure couplers will work, but is expensive. The other way is to install a high pressure shut of valve into a tee and relieve the pressure. You would only lose a small amount of fluid. This way, you would not have to tap the ball inside the coupler, or unscrew the fitting. These valves are around $15 to $35 bucks. They have to be high pressure, 3000 psi or better. Similar to this one.
 

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   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #16  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

This problem has been around for a while. Hydraulic lock, which is to much pressure on the quick connect to disconnect or connect. With the pump running , you will probably not be able to disconnect, unless you install the disconnect under pressure couplers as mentioned by someone. It is a good idea to install male and female quick disconnects on the machine, and all attachments. You then couple the unused lines together, for several reasons. First one is to equalize pressure in the two lines. The second one is to keep the quick connects coupled to help keep them clean. Heat poses another problem. If you couple two lines from a cylinder together, heat may build up enough pressure to prevent you from disconnecting. Even if the two lines are left uncoupled, heat buildup may prevent you from coupling. You then have to relieve the pressure by tapping the ball inside the coupler, or unscrew the coupler fitting. Another situation may also occur, and that is, if you unplug the disconnects and they are pointing up, the coupler may fill with water, and when the cylinder cools, a vacuum is created and can suck that water into the line, and then you will have to deal with that. I believe there are two solutions that may help. The disconnect under pressure couplers will work, but is expensive. The other way is to install a high pressure shut of valve into a tee and relieve the pressure. You would only lose a small amount of fluid. This way, you would not have to tap the ball inside the coupler, or unscrew the fitting. These valves are around $15 to $35 bucks. They have to be high pressure, 3000 psi or better. Similar to this one.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #17  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

An electric switch might be a slightly easier mod as far as physically locating it, but pretty much the same amount of plumbing - in my thick head anyway.

Regardless, [I have to shout: let's see if they can hear me in all the way in Tazewell /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ]

I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WHAT-SO-EVER, NONE, NADA, WITH COUPLING SINCE INSTALLING A <font color="red">MOTOR SPOOL!!! </font>

I never have to turn off the engine and they hook right up. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

No reverse on the motor side, but if you don't think you'd use that: this might be a good option.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #18  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

An electric switch might be a slightly easier mod as far as physically locating it, but pretty much the same amount of plumbing - in my thick head anyway.

Regardless, [I have to shout: let's see if they can hear me in all the way in Tazewell /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ]

I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WHAT-SO-EVER, NONE, NADA, WITH COUPLING SINCE INSTALLING A <font color="red">MOTOR SPOOL!!! </font>

I never have to turn off the engine and they hook right up. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

No reverse on the motor side, but if you don't think you'd use that: this might be a good option.
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #19  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

I tried my own suggestions today and it is very hard too move the cylinder in and out. It might be friction in the cylinder or flow rates different between one side and the other side of the piston. Maybe I need a vent to let a little fluid out. I will play with it tomorrow. At least I am learning a little about hydraulics.

Bob Rip
 
   / Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy? #20  
Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

I tried my own suggestions today and it is very hard too move the cylinder in and out. It might be friction in the cylinder or flow rates different between one side and the other side of the piston. Maybe I need a vent to let a little fluid out. I will play with it tomorrow. At least I am learning a little about hydraulics.

Bob Rip
 

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