Maybe old hat for you serious welders but saw this at my LWS

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I would assume so. I gave up caving when I fell down about 30 feet in Lost Man Cave over in SE Mo many years ago. I still have a nice scar on my right hand. Caving is dangerous.. A lot more dangerous than operating a tractor in my opinion.

I'd say if you were in a cave in Mo and didn't run into the ghost of Injun Joe, you did all right.