Mf 135 starting problem

[jimmysisson]

From your last post it appears yours is an electrical problem. Maybe the starter bushings are worn so the armature is getting too close to the field windings, which draws wicked current. Maybe (likely) the cables are corroded one place or another, esp. where the ground attaches. Maybe the starter solenoid has arced so many times you're getting poor secondary contact in it.
If it starts right up on a pull, suspect the starter motor circuit. It's an easy rebuild if it comes to that, with a new solenoid, brushes, and bushings. I'd go easy on the long cranking, that might have brought the starter low.
Had a 135 for a few years, it liked a block heater below 20, but jumped quick with a bit of heat.
Jim

 

[JJ. in B.C.]

Just to throw my "tuppence" in.... the poor starting symptoms you describe
could also be caused by low compression, have you thought of doing a
compression test ?

 

[Jerry/MT]

we have a mf 135 at home now this 20 years was always know as the best starter around the place, needed little power til get her gon, she was in real need for restoring a few years ago so we set about restoring her which we did and now looks the part but ever since that shes found it harder til start until recently she keep turning and turning and turning, i got a brand new battery for it the other day to she if that is the problem but no, it seems til be struggling to turn over. but the new battery started it after a while, all the injectors have be restored and lines are bleed and new lift pump and heat plug but still no go, when you turn her over there is grey smoke and then shel go like its gona start change to black then slow down again, does anyone know how to solve this problem,

Generally speaking, all a diesel engine in resonable mechanical shape needs to get started is a good battery and starter to turn it over. a good starting aid in cold weather and fuel to the injection pump.
Did you replace the fuel filter(s) and bleed the system well all the way through to the injectors and then tighten the fittings so no air will leak into the fuel supply system? Are the tempertures below freezing? Did you clean the tank out when you retored her? If the fuel tank is contaminated with water in can restrct the tank outlet and you may not be getting enough fuel. Is there a water drain on your filters? Is it clear of water? Is your starting aid working?

 

[Jerry/MT]

we have a mf 135 at home now this 20 years was always know as the best starter around the place, needed little power til get her gon, she was in real need for restoring a few years ago so we set about restoring her which we did and now looks the part but ever since that shes found it harder til start until recently she keep turning and turning and turning, i got a brand new battery for it the other day to she if that is the problem but no, it seems til be struggling to turn over. but the new battery started it after a while, all the injectors have be restored and lines are bleed and new lift pump and heat plug but still no go, when you turn her over there is grey smoke and then shel go like its gona start change to black then slow down again, does anyone know how to solve this problem,

Generally speaking, all a diesel engine in resonable mechanical shape needs to get started is a good battery and starter to turn it over. a good starting aid in cold weather and fuel to the injection pump. Do you have the Standard engine? If so they are notorious for being hard starters.
Did you replace the fuel filter(s) and bleed the system well all the way through to the injectors and then tighten the fittings so no air will leak into the fuel supply system? Are the tempertures below freezing? Did you clean the tank out when you retored her? If the fuel tank is contaminated with water in can restrct the tank outlet and you may not be getting enough fuel. Is there a water drain on your filters? Is it clear of water? Is your starting aid working? Do you have any way of heating the engine?

 

[masseycantwork]

good day from pei, i know a thing or to about old masseys, we got three of them here in minus 27c. make sure you have really clean connections. take a wire wheel to the grounds on the block,if it was restored there could be paint on the block under the ground cable, a big no no. remember, the grounds are more important than the live cables.wire wheel the positive connections also. if the starter was new and after market,not delco the starter could be deffective. just tonight i solved th problem with our 154-4.we put a new power steering pump on last year and it never worked right. we went through all our work for a year.it ended up i took the pump apart tonight and the intake line and screen was higher than the fill plug so the pump was starving all year! damm the chinese!!!!!!! if all this is good redo the starter.

 

[grangenumber4]

you all seem to be say you have minus conditions were you are it is 10 degrees c here to day and still no go but i have not had the time to check the starter yet. but i 100% its not a fuel fault my father has spent all last week after work replaing filters etc and made sure there is no air in the system and go the tractor running for and hour or two but still hard till start. So im going to get a starter that i no is working and make sure that the battery cables are all working correct and hopefully the girl will start if not il have to send it away till get fixed, tractor is really missed will have to put up some pics for yous all to see

 

[banjodunn]

G'day it sounds like a starter prob to me do you have a stud on the end of the starter that you can bolt a ground lead to?


Jon

 

[grangenumber4]

i dont know what does it look like

 

[grangenumber4]

we checked the starter on the tractor there today its not a starter fault, but i think i might know now, would too much oil in the tractor cause starting problems. we had the tractor running today we had to push start it an was running fine an normal but there was lots of white smoke. when we stopped it, it wouldnt start on the key again, the engine and oiul was all warm, its so weird, im nearly that the point of packing up and shipping her off to an expert and get teh engine overhauled and checked.

 

[leveled]

LOL are you serious?