BillG_in_TX
Veteran Member
I wonder if all Kioti dealers have access to a full line of Midwest implements?
Midwest products, nice BUT...
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rockyridgefarm
Elite Member
Thanks Jonanthan!
I keep looking at inferior products, at higher prices around here. You are dead on on your assessment of MidWest.
Besides, it is hard to imagine someone you would rather do business with. Jim McCuan is a model poster on TBN. I am consistantly amazed by his posts. He never bashes the competition, I have even seen him post others product info for folks looking for it. How could anyone not want to deal with them.
But if they go all out making it easy to buy direct, they cut off their nose, Dealers won't want to sell their stuff.
I keep looking at inferior products, at higher prices around here. You are dead on on your assessment of MidWest.
Besides, it is hard to imagine someone you would rather do business with. Jim McCuan is a model poster on TBN. I am consistantly amazed by his posts. He never bashes the competition, I have even seen him post others product info for folks looking for it. How could anyone not want to deal with them.
But if they go all out making it easy to buy direct, they cut off their nose, Dealers won't want to sell their stuff.
19th_VA
Gold Member
Bill,
Are you referring to the deal between Midwest and Kioti? I would imagine not yet since it is so new. Little Tractor, which does very high volume, has some Midwest stuff listed on their website but not the cutters. But that's just the website.
Are you referring to the deal between Midwest and Kioti? I would imagine not yet since it is so new. Little Tractor, which does very high volume, has some Midwest stuff listed on their website but not the cutters. But that's just the website.
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You're absolutley right as far as not relly getting the info that you ask for. I've inquired 3 times about their grader blades and keep getting a form letter telling me my closest dealer is 8 1/2 hours away. Well it looks like I'll probably buy a Tufline as I can aleast get some info on their products. It's a shame also as a small beginner company ,as stated in one of their e-mails, usually needs all the business it can get. No I'm not complaing just offering a little consumer feedback. I've not heard one bad thing about thier products but would like all the info I can get since I ,or anyone else it seems, can't go down to the local dealer as see and feel a Midwest piece of equipment. Also their website leaves alot to be desired also. Remember this is input not b*t*h*n*g ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BillG_in_TX
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JimMc has said in another thread that they have an exclusive deal with Kioti for "orange" implements, I think as of 1/1/03. Even if the local Kioti dealer doesn't have all of the Midwest implements on hand, I'll bet they have access to them - and the customer shouldn't have to do the marketing for Midwest. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Of course, you'd have to want it in <font color="orange"> ORANGE </font>.
Of course, you'd have to want it in <font color="orange"> ORANGE </font>.
tc35dforme
Platinum Member
<font color="blue">We Americans are spoiled, spoiled, spoiled </font>
Yes I am....and kinda proud of it. I work very hard for my standard of living. My parents did and their parents did. The fact that a lot of TBNers operate tractors for their personal use is a testament to the "spoiled" lifestyle that we lead.
If being spoiled means that we have access to the best information, best product, best value then so be it. Today's business world is in no way the same business world we saw 20 years ago. Business must and should adjust the "old" ways to meet the demands on the market.
Based on my research, Midwest makes a top notch piece of equipment. The have obviously invested a significant amount of money into product development and machinery to make their product. Perhaps the current market requires a bit of investment into marketing, web based information access, and dealer and/or regional sales programs.
Yes I am....and kinda proud of it. I work very hard for my standard of living. My parents did and their parents did. The fact that a lot of TBNers operate tractors for their personal use is a testament to the "spoiled" lifestyle that we lead.
If being spoiled means that we have access to the best information, best product, best value then so be it. Today's business world is in no way the same business world we saw 20 years ago. Business must and should adjust the "old" ways to meet the demands on the market.
Based on my research, Midwest makes a top notch piece of equipment. The have obviously invested a significant amount of money into product development and machinery to make their product. Perhaps the current market requires a bit of investment into marketing, web based information access, and dealer and/or regional sales programs.
tdenny
Platinum Member
I have sent emails to Jim Mc at MidWest and gotten fairly quick and always accurate responses. Many of the folks out here had the same problems with First Choice in the very beginning. The smaller/newer company may not quite be ready to handle the amount of calls, emails, etc. that can be generated in today's environment. I think patience will prevail here and they will soon enough have a mechanism or more employees to handle all of us who want more of their fine equipment at reasonable prices. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
19th_VA
Gold Member
Patience--a great word for all of us who have owned small business and know that there are no quick or easy fixes for service--it takes training, personnel, $--and time!
Pacesetter300
Silver Member
JDEERESTL - Can you please give us details of your transaction. It is counter to what I have experienced - which seems to be the norm.
19TH VA - If you spend time to participate in this forum and pay money to advertise, I would think that if you get a prospective customer to respond, you would take advantage of the situation. I contacted Ken Sweet about a Century tractor. It took three eMails to get him and then I never heard from him again after I wondered why his website is still featuring older 20 series Centurys. Cost him a sale, my 3045 is on the way from another distant dealer.
Jim Mc did a little better. He did respond, but he essentially told me to see a Kioti dealer. I guess I'm supposed to see if they'll order me one in Century Red. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifHe showed a quick hitch in a forum a while back, but would never respond to my inquiry about it. I gave Jim the FAX of a dealer I knew, but never heard from the dealer that he was contacted or from Jim that the dealer wasn't interested.
Similar situation from Mark Carter. Three eMails to get a quote and still my issues weren't covered. I am soon to be in the market for four 3-PT implements and I feel like I'm out there asking for a discount on a hitch pin.
Speaking for myself, I would prefer to buy from someone who participates in this forum. Getting a good value is one aspect of my reasoning, supporting someone who supports us is another. When someone advertises and puts a web link on their forum responses, I've got to assume they want my business. When they sell to customers who participate on the forum, they should realize that their customer service practices - good or bad - are going to be part of it.
My soultion is for the members who advertise to stipulate in their profile - or somewhere - who, if anyone, they want to deal with. "Wholesale only", "ship within 500 mile radius", etc. That will help them formulate a quality response to qualified customers and preclude them from wasting their time on a number people who will never purchase. Does anyone know why Steve Carver is rarely seen anymore? I bet one reason is because he spent a great deal of time on quotes that never came to fruition.
This has gotten long, but I have to comment that some of the best people I have dealt with do not make it known they are in the business.
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19TH VA - If you spend time to participate in this forum and pay money to advertise, I would think that if you get a prospective customer to respond, you would take advantage of the situation. I contacted Ken Sweet about a Century tractor. It took three eMails to get him and then I never heard from him again after I wondered why his website is still featuring older 20 series Centurys. Cost him a sale, my 3045 is on the way from another distant dealer.
Jim Mc did a little better. He did respond, but he essentially told me to see a Kioti dealer. I guess I'm supposed to see if they'll order me one in Century Red. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifHe showed a quick hitch in a forum a while back, but would never respond to my inquiry about it. I gave Jim the FAX of a dealer I knew, but never heard from the dealer that he was contacted or from Jim that the dealer wasn't interested.
Similar situation from Mark Carter. Three eMails to get a quote and still my issues weren't covered. I am soon to be in the market for four 3-PT implements and I feel like I'm out there asking for a discount on a hitch pin.
Speaking for myself, I would prefer to buy from someone who participates in this forum. Getting a good value is one aspect of my reasoning, supporting someone who supports us is another. When someone advertises and puts a web link on their forum responses, I've got to assume they want my business. When they sell to customers who participate on the forum, they should realize that their customer service practices - good or bad - are going to be part of it.
My soultion is for the members who advertise to stipulate in their profile - or somewhere - who, if anyone, they want to deal with. "Wholesale only", "ship within 500 mile radius", etc. That will help them formulate a quality response to qualified customers and preclude them from wasting their time on a number people who will never purchase. Does anyone know why Steve Carver is rarely seen anymore? I bet one reason is because he spent a great deal of time on quotes that never came to fruition.
This has gotten long, but I have to comment that some of the best people I have dealt with do not make it known they are in the business.
Pacesetter
HayDR
Veteran Member, Approved Advertiser
Its just the busy time of the year, Pacesetter. To ship a few pieces to Maine from the South is prohibitive price wise. You will be looking at 30-40% to value shipping cost on the items you want. You asked for a PHD but do you want a throw-away Leinbach or the best Rhino or Danuser?
This was my responce 4/8/03
BB30-72 = ..........................................$425
LR20-96 (with wheels LR99-01) =.......$540
freight to a business location..................$325
Total $ 1290
The Northeast is the most expensive to ship to on an individual piece. A dealer in the area if ordering a truck load would only have $10-20 each of freight in each implement. If you have interest call us and we take MC/Visa.
Regards,
Mark Carter
This was my responce 4/8/03
BB30-72 = ..........................................$425
LR20-96 (with wheels LR99-01) =.......$540
freight to a business location..................$325
Total $ 1290
The Northeast is the most expensive to ship to on an individual piece. A dealer in the area if ordering a truck load would only have $10-20 each of freight in each implement. If you have interest call us and we take MC/Visa.
Regards,
Mark Carter
