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   / MONTANA #51  
We're getting way off topic here, but the first LG flip-phone my wife bought would revert to sending incoming messages to voice mail every time it was turned off. It required re-setting to take incoming calls every time it was turned on. The phone techs could not repair it so they replaced it. The one she has now regularly turns itself off during conversations.
 
   / MONTANA #52  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ...dealer down the street is not happy. ...Kubota dealer down the road he would not rent him any implements. ...The Kubota dealer here has competition and does not like it and is a very poor sport about it.
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Maka, your 'bota dealer sounds like both my local dealers. They both sell other brands, but immediately steer you toward a 'bota upon entering their stores. If you persist in asking questions about, or showing interest in, another machine, they both adopt a your-wasting-my-time attitude. I actually had one dealer tell me, and this is a direct quote, "Come back and see me when you're serious about buying." He then turned and walked away. I haven't set foot in his place since.

The other dealer, despite being listed on a manufacturer's web site as my local dealer, refuses to stock any of this brand. When I asked about this brand, he at first denied being a dealer. When I pointed out the web site listing, he reluctantly admitted he was, but quickly added that if I wanted one, it would have to paid-in-full (to the tune of about $6.5k) before he would think of ordering it. I could forget about the thought of any possible demo. I haven't been back there either!

Now, Kubota might make a nice product, but with dealers like that, I'll never find out!
 
   / MONTANA #53  
Hey all,

Many times a phone is blamed for the lack of good network coverage, service provider etc. I see people all the time who complain about their phone when it was set up wrong, their are dead spots in the service area etc. It is always the phone. In any case, it is a mute.

My point was plainly clear in my previous post. Lets get back to tractors.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #54  
It is sad about some of the Kubota dealers. I do note that it is not all Kubota dealers but I have to say the one in our area is a completely nasty individual.

I have a customer who was shopping for a tractor for contract work. He was looking at Kubota, NH, JD and Montana. He shopped for 3 months and came in about 8 times to drive, compare, look at and decide if he wanted 43 or 49 hp.

He chose the LG4340 (43hp) with lots of extras. The Kubota dealer would not negotiate one penny for him and said he did not need to. So, I signed the deal and delivered a new LG4340, 7' hydraulic 6 way dozer blade, claw bucket with tooth bar, 6' HD box scrapper and he has a log winch, grapple and backhoe on order for spring.

Kubotas are good tractors (I think way over priced at least in my area) and this is not a negative commentary ( <font color="blue"> I like to think I have more class than to start bashing)</font> on their product nor all of their dealers it is a dealer in our area that thinks so highly of his product that he drives customers to purchase mine.

If the Kubota/NH dealer were less worried about what I am doing and less worried about my product and more focused on their business and customers he would be so much better off.

I know why he is worried though and understand as now I have customers out hauling their Montanas around town using them for all kinds of work and building up our presence, name recognition, customer support base and all around visibility.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #55  
Man, I didn't mean to start a fight. So Montana's come with cell phones is what I am reading? By George, I'm going back and telling the salesperson you all said so.

Everything I did find researching and driving the Montana went well. I sure wish they could rent me one. The problem is, I didn't find much history or opinion on the tractor. All your previous post are VERY educational even if there is some ragging going on.

Remember, I get 7-9 more HP and CAB with the 5740, selectable PTO, 4 remotes, etc. all for less than the L5030 ... and I worked the Kubota sales guys hard. The extra HP is appealing, though I wouldn't need a CAB.

Maka, you offered a chance to save the sale our inept sales kid was trying to make. Let's give junior some help. I recognize we all were juniors in our profession (even farming and tractors) before we had a clue. Junior needs some sales 101. The problem is I'm not willing to give up what may be the right thing to do.

Here's what I asked of junior.

Implements:

I need a comparison of the MRC 7260SC with a BH306 and bush-whacker 72". I got the specs for the BH and bush-whacker but not the Montana. $2000 versus $1260 for the Montana.

I need a comparison of a Dan User 20/40 and a BH2102 versus a MPHD 9. $1200 with carbide tip auger from DU versus the MPHD9 or 12? $512 (without carbide) or $1200?

I need to compare a 7ft Atlas (which I can't find any info) with a BH RBX720 or a Cammond BS72R?

On all the above, opinions don't count until we first see the some specs. 1/4 inch steel or 3/8 inch? What's the PTO HP ratings? What augers can the Montana handle? Can the cutter handle 2" or 3" trees and the neighbors ugly cat? Pictures would be nice ... of the cat ... after it hit the cutter. If I drop the Montana cell phone, will the box blade gently move it out of the way if the scarers are down?

All joking aside, I'm still seriously interested in the Montana. Check out the distributer location. I live about 20 minutes from Springdale. The dealer is owned by the son of Mr. J.B. Hunt. I work for his dad. (Dad doesn't run the company any more though).

The first Kubota dealer sales person, and owner of the dealership, was very helpful and patient with my **** retentive, rookie questions.

The second Kubota dealer sales person was a country boy that loves his job. I had good experiences with both.

I'm not the kind of guy that does well with "it should work" "it may last" "I think so". Not for $32,500 and the toys I want.


Dang Kubota's are a bit pricey though.
 
   / MONTANA #56  
Hi jhb. I am glad you got to go down to the distribution center. I saw your profile and meant to suggest that maybe it was close by and you might visit them.

No, the the phone does not come with the tractor that I know of but the detachable face stereo is an LG /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I will be happy to give you some comparisons but it will be later tomorrow.

I will do my best to make sure I answer all of your questions and no matter what you purchase I wish you the best.

Maka
 
   / MONTANA #58  
Hello jhb,

Just wanted to get back to you as promised. The first thing I would like to address is the LG5740 pto output. The pto output is 52hp.

As far as the implements I have a couple of questions. You mention cutting 2" or 3" trees. What kind of trees, jack pine or some hard wood? is it more underbrush? If they are trees and you want to cut 3" have you considered possibly a flail mower vs brush mower?

MRC7260
72" cut, 60hp gear box, 1150lbs, 3/16" deck, 1/2x4x30" blades with a 2" cut recommendation (depending on what is being cut)

As far as the PHD goes we don't have a comparison to a Dan User as it is just a different class. I will tell you that the LG5740 will dig post holes with those post hole diggers.

The MPHD9 or 12 is a good PHD. Here are the specs for those;
The digger less the auger is 179lbs. We have 6, 9 and 12" augers available.

9" auger weighs 34lbs and has replaceable screw point with inner and our cutting edges.

12" auger weighs 55lbs and has replaceable screw point with inner and our cutting edges.

Cutting edges are a high-carbon beveled steel design

540 pto, cat. 1 or 2 and come standard with guide bar.

I have a LG5740 on our lot and have farmers who use the 5740 to use their swathers with conditioners, move round bales all day long etc.

This tractor will (not might) do the job. This tractor is reliable and this tractor will make you very happy. I will send some pictures via email of LGs at work logging, plowing etc.

I hope I have been of some help and wish you luck in your purchase no matter what that purchase is. As for the cat, my dog brings them home all the time and he thinks they taste very good. Get a good dog for that problem.

Best Regards,
Maka
 
   / MONTANA #59  
Maka can you run a backhoe with a cab.I know you can't run a Kubota backhoe with their cab
 
   / MONTANA #60  
Check again, there are several guys on TBN who run a back hoe with their Kubota cab tractors.

Check out this link for a very nice L5030HSTC that DDT has with a backhoe.
I Got My L 5030 Cab Tractor
 

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