QRTRHRS
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Sounds like a good plan.
Morton Building
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RobS
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Wow, impressive building!
wedge40
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So are you living in there? I've heard of people around here, building large barns and taking about a 1/3 or even 1/2 and using it for living quarters.
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Just want to say that this is a very nice. I think all pole barns should have a living space in them. I see alot more people building garages and pole barns with living spaces before the actual construction of there house. Probably a lot cheaper then living out of a hotel if you sell your current house. And probably alot easier than living with family or friends while the house is being built.
Can't wait to see finished pictures.
Can't wait to see finished pictures.
rdln
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"It looks like Morton set short glue lams posts to get out of the ground and then nailed the rest of the columns to those? Were the upper columns in pieces or were they already together and just mated up?"
Yes, columns are assembled and precut at factory, factory installed " bird blocking 2x4s spaces the girts or siding nailers onsite. The columns are nailed to the treated columns in the ground with one nail, wall is assembled on the ground and then rotated up with tractor loader.
"I see what looks like OSB around the bottom. How thick is that and was that optional or stock? Is it for protection from animals kicking or you getting too close and is it structural as well?"
7/16 OSB, mainly to prevent dents in steel wainscotting, my wainscoting was screwed in and the rest nailed, Beavis probably had all his steel screwed on.
Beavis beautiful building, I was not all that impressed with my crew, the salesman was a little too comfortable, they did not live up to all the hype morton put out. But I am on the picky side when I drop a lot of coin.
This is one of the threads that I wish I did not miss due to my sporadic TBN lurking.
Yes, columns are assembled and precut at factory, factory installed " bird blocking 2x4s spaces the girts or siding nailers onsite. The columns are nailed to the treated columns in the ground with one nail, wall is assembled on the ground and then rotated up with tractor loader.
"I see what looks like OSB around the bottom. How thick is that and was that optional or stock? Is it for protection from animals kicking or you getting too close and is it structural as well?"
7/16 OSB, mainly to prevent dents in steel wainscotting, my wainscoting was screwed in and the rest nailed, Beavis probably had all his steel screwed on.
Beavis beautiful building, I was not all that impressed with my crew, the salesman was a little too comfortable, they did not live up to all the hype morton put out. But I am on the picky side when I drop a lot of coin.
This is one of the threads that I wish I did not miss due to my sporadic TBN lurking.
Thumper & Buttercup
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When they built our Morton building all the 2x6 came bundled, they built all the poles by using three 2x6's, they staggered them so they fit into the lower treated wood and so the trusses would fit right into them.
They had a guy doing the holes, a guy building the wood, and then a guy setting the bottom posts with a guy checking and helping as it went. They build our 48'x60' in 4 days, that was just the building no cement. Then a door company came in and finished the roll up.
They work great together, each guy has a job and it gets done, we had a big cookout for them when they finished, we also filled up their trucks with sweet corn fresh from our field.
They had a guy doing the holes, a guy building the wood, and then a guy setting the bottom posts with a guy checking and helping as it went. They build our 48'x60' in 4 days, that was just the building no cement. Then a door company came in and finished the roll up.
They work great together, each guy has a job and it gets done, we had a big cookout for them when they finished, we also filled up their trucks with sweet corn fresh from our field.
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FWIW, when I got my Morton building, they explained they used the PT 2x6s for the in ground part of the poles since they can be more sure of complete treatment penetration with 2 xs, and they use stainless steel fasteners to hold them together. Made sense to me, and it is an extra step, for sure. Sealing or epoxy finishing the floor slab is almost a must, unless you are going to store stuff in the dark and never look at it. Even then, a hardner is a good idea.
gordyy
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great looking building
I have a friend who had one built 20 years ago for his buisness office and treatment rooms, I helped him do a lot of remodeling over the years making small improvments here and there, then when he semiretired a couple years ago we did a large remodel and made most of it 85% into living quarters built on a room or two etc. its great wide open spaces lots of room for insulation a great all around building
I have a friend who had one built 20 years ago for his buisness office and treatment rooms, I helped him do a lot of remodeling over the years making small improvments here and there, then when he semiretired a couple years ago we did a large remodel and made most of it 85% into living quarters built on a room or two etc. its great wide open spaces lots of room for insulation a great all around building
Progress update:
Last week I buried the 5 downspouts that come off of the building and yesterday I installed 200 feet of landscape edging. The landscape edging consist of 1/8"x4"x20' steel pieces with 12" pieces of rebar welded about every 4-5' to help anchor them in the ground. I guess this was better than the stuff you buy at Lowes, etc. Anyway, the next step will be to put down landscape fabric and river rock to give it a finished look.
Last week I buried the 5 downspouts that come off of the building and yesterday I installed 200 feet of landscape edging. The landscape edging consist of 1/8"x4"x20' steel pieces with 12" pieces of rebar welded about every 4-5' to help anchor them in the ground. I guess this was better than the stuff you buy at Lowes, etc. Anyway, the next step will be to put down landscape fabric and river rock to give it a finished look.
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A few questions regarding the living quarters:
Were you going to occupy during the winter months?
If so, how did you insulate the perimeter at grade level?
How did you seal out the small rodents and bugs?
Did you provide plumbing below the slab?
Thanks,
Yooper Dave
Were you going to occupy during the winter months?
If so, how did you insulate the perimeter at grade level?
How did you seal out the small rodents and bugs?
Did you provide plumbing below the slab?
Thanks,
Yooper Dave
The living space is set up for temporary situations, but we have done the following:
1: The water enters the building under the concrete on the south side, with the hopes of full sun exposure in the winter months.
2: The two exterior walls have 6" insulation and the interior walls have 4".
3: I had a few people suggest a layer of underlayment insulation under the concrete, but others said don't waste your time?
4: The plan is to shut off the water in the winter months since we do not have heat or air. During the summer months; simply turning on the ceiling fan makes it very comfortable.
1: The water enters the building under the concrete on the south side, with the hopes of full sun exposure in the winter months.
2: The two exterior walls have 6" insulation and the interior walls have 4".
3: I had a few people suggest a layer of underlayment insulation under the concrete, but others said don't waste your time?
4: The plan is to shut off the water in the winter months since we do not have heat or air. During the summer months; simply turning on the ceiling fan makes it very comfortable.
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