Most domestic content question

[AndyMA]

Ford & other manufacturers I've noticed have posted domestic content in the window stickers of their vehicles for years.

Why would it be so outrageous to suugest if a 80 HP 4x4 utility would do the same? After all, they could cost as much or more than a car or truck.

Those window stickers you speak of in many cases don't say much. I just looked at Subaru's and for the Outback it said engine and transmission from Japan and car assembled in IA, USA.

How do you determine %. By weight, by volume, by wholesale dollar value, by manufacturing cost? I don't know. I would also suspect that manufacturers have multiple sources for parts are they don't always even come from the same countries. Like I said earlier, even for some of the products I have designed and brought into production I could not tell you the domestic content.

Andy

 

[billbill1]

When we do get the answer to this question, would you please find out what kind of oil is recommended to use? That would also be helpful.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

The data MIGHT exist. In todays information rich world, I'm sure SOMEONE SOMEWHERE at one of the various manufacturers has put together the data. The level of competition between manufacturers these days is nothing short of cut throat. They monitor each others every move. I doubt much goes on at Deere that Kubota doesn't know long before the public is aware, and so on. But, I doubt any of them want the world (read; US MARKET) to know. Even in the case of "the winner", the percentages would probably be so insignificantly low it would be as much "bad press" as good.

So in the sense that the info is unavailable to the general public, no, it doesn't exist most likely. There's no more proof that the info DOESN'T exist than there is proof it DOES exist.

Is there really a Santa Claus?

 

[Builder]

The data MIGHT exist. In todays information rich world, I'm sure SOMEONE SOMEWHERE at one of the various manufacturers has put together the data...................

That's all I'm looking for, plain & simple.

 

[timnjaneb]

Hello, I read most of this thread early this morning and since then just returned home with a new calendar from the local John Deere Dealer.
The theme of the calendar seemed so fitting for a post here. Each month has a different tractor or implement along with the country and city of origin, while the inside of the front cover lists all of the various manufacturing plants ALL OVER THE WORLD. Pick one up when you get a chance and take a look.

As a side note I can tell you that the highly qualified and dedicated service technicians at this dealership could care less where the item came from. All they have to do is keep it operating to Deere standards.
Tim

 

[patrick_g]

Ahh, now that the flames have died down to embers I can get close enough to finish putting the fire out... WITH GASOLINE!!!

Even if someone somewhere has the data, it is at best a snapshot of a dynamically changing dataset and any compilation would be obsolete before it was compiled.

Another thought is that the information may be closely held and NOT FOR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.

So unfortunately, however interesting it might be to know it is likely unknowable.

Somewhere in a tractor there is probably a 1/4 20 nut or its metric equivalent. There are probably hundreds if not thousands of possible suppliers of that part to any given manufacture that meets or exceed the engineering specs for its use. When the bin gets low in the plant it is refilled from the stock room and the stockroom gets it parts from whoever was low bid on a bunch of hardware. It is darned unlikely that at any given moment anyone anywhere has a clue which parts from which suppliers went into which tractors.

Although I gave a simple example, the same tower of Babel situation exists for lots of the parts. When the engine manufacturer assembles the diesel engine do you think he knows which vendor's wrist pins went into which vendors con rods or whose rings went on whose pistons? Not bloody likely.

So, again, I think it is unlikely that anyone knows the actual content origin of any specific serial number of any given model of some brand of tractor and it is likely it varies considerably over time and not just when models change but whenever the bin is filled with parts. This goes for castings and weldments as well as bolts and nuts.

If the intent of the original question (still unstated) was to support making some sort of reasoned decision based on origin of content, I think it CAN'T be done because it can't be known.

I will be pleased to buy anyone a rootbeer float if they can show me to be mostly wrong in my surmise.

Pat

 

[MikePA]

If the intent of the original question (still unstated)...

Builder, I did all I could.

 

[Builder]

Builder, I did all I could.

I know, man. I really appreciate you trying to keep the topic out of the mud, but what are you gonna do? No matter where you go, you're going to run into confrontational Kubota owners from SC with a chip on their shoulder.

Once again for posterity, if auto manufacturers can do it, there's no reason tractor manufacturers can't do it, too.

No, not talking about every nut & bolt. I'd be happy with even the major components. Engine, trans, rears, sheetmetal, assembly, etc.

 

[patrick_g]

Builder, I did all I could.

Not to worry, dude. Death is nature's way of telling you to slow down so until the message gets delivered just keep on keeping on.

Pat

 

[MikePA]

Not to worry, dude. Death is nature's way of telling you to slow down so until the message gets delivered just keep on keeping on.

If Sigmund Freud were a member of TBN, he might say, "Sometimes a question is just a question.", while others insist on on searching for deeper meaning, even after the OP has stated his intent. Oh well, I guess others are better able to do this.