Motor oil

[KICK]

CF-4 oil was Introduced in 1990 for high-speed four-stroke naturally aspirated and turbo engines. Can't understand why you can't purchase it elsewhere. ....

actually my reference was geared toward the weight of the oil, New Hooland was specin 10w30 which isn't a fairly common diesel engine oil weight, I said screw it, 15w40 for me.

in Fla I haven't found 10w30 diesel engine oil other than at the new holland dealer and I'm not going to pay twice the price for it.

same goes for the JD oil they are speccing, its an oddball grade, I suspect they come up with weights like that in order to get people to buy their oil.

 

[hsdfcu]

in general you are safe using an oil with the newer rating as it supercedes and is improved over the older rating.

I would say yes but I am sure there are exceptions to the rule. Best thing in my eyes is UOA. Manuals ratings etc do not mean much [to me].

 

[hsdfcu]

same goes for the JD oil they are speccing, its an oddball grade, I suspect they come up with weights like that in order to get people to buy their oil.

JD would NEVER do that. LOL

 

[JESSE1]

I guess it depends on where you're located. My JD dealer only stocks 15w40 in the Plus 50 oil. Normally I use Rotella 15w40 but since I was at the dealer getting filters and also needed oil I bought the JD.

 

[Z71]

OEMs typically buy low cost and sometimes low-quality oils from lubricant manufacturers, put their labels on them and send them out for distribution at dealerships. There is a big industry of companies that can supply an OEM with everything from blending to complete packaging. Contrary to consumer perception, OEM lubes often aren’t equal to the performance quality of the cheapest aftermarket oils on store shelves. Dealers can command higher prices simply because the consumer perceives it to be more appropriate for the application.

As a local ATV dealer told me one day, he said he has customers come and will only buy OEM branded oil for thier ATV which cost them only about $5g whereas their $40g truck uses any oil thats on sale at the WM and they would never in thier wildest dreams every contemplate going to the Ford, GM or DC dealer to buy oil. Yet, try to convince them the ATV branded oil is not any better and thier ready to fight.

 

[hsdfcu]

OEMs typically buy low cost and sometimes low-quality oils from lubricant manufacturers, put their labels on them and send them out for distribution at dealerships. Contrary to consumer perception, research indicates OEM lubes often aren’t equal to the performance quality of the cheapest aftermarket oils on store shelves. Dealers can command higher prices simply because the consumer perceives it to be more appropriate for the application.

BINGO! They rebadge low cost oil and then double the price.

 

[Dusty]

It is the rating on the container that is the important part, not the name brand on the front. Check the specification certification first and then the price and buy the least expensive one. Just like milk at the grocery store, the only difference is the price between all the brands. There is brand loyalty in both milk and oil, but for what reason, I don't know.

 

[KICK]

OEMs typically buy low cost and sometimes low-quality oils from lubricant manufacturers, put their labels on them and send them out for distribution at dealerships. .

from what I've read, there are only 6 or 7 motor oil manufacturers in the USA.

then there are the bottlers who produce all those different packages with those 6 or 7 brands of oil in them.

 

[Opti-Mist]

Yup, go to the API website for that info. Shell packages some of the Wal-Mart oils.

 

[DieselPower]

According to my 2006-2007 Lubricants Industry Sourcebook there are over 200 lubricant manufacturers in the US. That's manufacturers and not packager/relabelers (hmm, relabelers, if that's even a word ). Don't forget a engine oil manufacturer may or may not have their own refinery and may only be a blender. Many do buy their base oil stocks from one of the big 16 refiners in the US. Most all refiners do also manufacturer engine oil.

Interesting fact. There are 16 base oil refiner's in the US alone in 2006 with a capacity of over 5,000 barrels a day. The largest refinery in the world for 2006 being Motiva Enterprises in Port Arthur, TX with a capacity of 40,300 b/d capacity. ExxonMobil's 3 refineries combined have a total of 50,000 b/d capacity. The Motiva refinery must be gigantic.