Mounting a tire

   / Mounting a tire #31  
One of our power line contractors hit a live high voltage line with a cherry picker . The truck was found to be allright and was sent on another job . All the tyres blew within a 100 yards . The steel belts in the tyres that where closest to the ground were disintergrated by the power going to earth .
 
   / Mounting a tire #32  
patrick_g said:
I think it is good to know how to do it yourself but...


Pat

Good point.. know how to do it.. whether or not you pay someone else to do it.

Funny that i will sometimes mount my own tractor tires.. yet take my car to the mechanic for brakes and tires ( I done em both before.. takes too much time now! )

soundguy
 
   / Mounting a tire #33  
I found that when using the pry levers etc to stretch the last bead onto the tire, that it's much much easier to let the oppsite bead go on down between the rims as far as it will. I almost destroyed the rear tires till I figured that out.

As far as doing it myself, and I mean by my self, what with the thirty miles to a town and waiting or wasteing a trip cause I have to leave it,plus what ever they charge. I have plenty of time to learn how to do it. Retired.
 
   / Mounting a tire #34  
woodchuckie said:
I found that when using the pry levers etc to stretch the last bead onto the tire, that it's much much easier to let the oppsite bead go on down between the rims as far as it will. I almost destroyed the rear tires till I figured that out.

As far as doing it myself, and I mean by my self, what with the thirty miles to a town and waiting or wasteing a trip cause I have to leave it,plus what ever they charge. I have plenty of time to learn how to do it. Retired.

I think that's what Iron Horse called the "well" in post #7 of this thread. And of course, with some wheels it makes a difference as to which side of the rim you start with. That well is sometimes farther in from the rim on one side than the other and you'd like to work from the side that has the well closest to the rim.
 
   / Mounting a tire #35  
Okay, now lets do it with a couple of old car springs[tire irons] a nice sledge and a very blunt faced chisel!:D :D

And you have to use a hand operated air pump!:D :D

Remember the split rims? more than one person was killed by them!:( :(
 
   / Mounting a tire #36  
Egon, way back there 50-52 years ago when I was doing tire repairs, I'd never heard of a tire machine. We did have a little manual device for breaking the bead on ordinary car and pickup tires, but for trucks and tractors, we had a sledge hammer that was, in fact, a hammer on one side and much like a very very blunt chisel on the other side. It took a little practice initially, but you soon learned to swing the big sucker so that broad chisel blade hit the rubber right at the rim and slipped in between the rubber of the tire and steel of the rim (there was no such thing as aluminum or alloy wheels). And you just worked your way around the rim until the bead broke loose, then you turned the wheel over and did the other side. And yes, I did split rim and split ring wheels when we'd never heard of cages. Of course we had heard of people being killed by those things, so when I put one together, initially I'd put just enough air to straighten the tube without the valve core, then let that air out so the tube could relax and be straight in the tire. Then install the valve core, apply air a little at a time, and tap on the rim all the way around to be sure that split rim or ring was properly seated. We'd do that a half dozen times before getting up to the operating pressure. But then we wised up a bit and would raise the car lift, put the truck tire under there and let the lift down almost onto the tire. And I was lucky enough to never have one explode or give me any trouble.

Of course, the last one of that type I had to work on was in July, 1972, in Canada, enroute to Alaska, when twice I had to work on one of the tires/wheels on my 1971 3/4 ton Chevy pickup which still had bias ply tube type tires and split ring wheels.
 
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We used the blunt chisel to hammer on as just the hammer takes practice.:D :D
 
   / Mounting a tire #38  
Bird , i remember those old 20" cross ply truck tyres well . The rust band and tyre beads would be so rusted on i used to remove the lock ring and then carefully pump the tyre up until the bead would be forced off the rim . Then you had to turn it over and put the wheel on a dummy rim that was a little smaller than the rim and bash away with the short sledge hammer and chisel . Sometimes i would resort to using the bulldozer blade to force the second bead off . After a lot of swearing the bead would let go . I was so happy to see the tubeless 22.5" truck tyre come along , they were a pleasure to change compared to the 20".
 
   / Mounting a tire #39  
On some of our farm wagons we used to put the tyre in a fire and heat it up before pounding it over the rim!:D :D :D
 
   / Mounting a tire #40  
woodchuckie said:
I found that when using the pry levers etc to stretch the last bead onto the tire, that it's much much easier to let the oppsite bead go on down between the rims as far as it will. I almost destroyed the rear tires till I figured that out.

I think this is a point that could use some emphasis in the Gempler's article.
I can change bicycle and motorcycle tires up to about 4.60 x 18 entirely by hand.
I mean ENTIRELY by HAND, that is WITHOUT tire irons or anything used as a tire iron.
The "trick" to it is to manipulate the beads into the well of the rim and work the "slack" to the opposite side, very little force is needed.
I learned this as a youth (without much tool savvy), tire irons would BITE me, typically in the face as I lay stretched across a wheel and took a hand off of one to get a third one started. They would just fly up and whack me, which must have done some good because I figured out a better way.
By leaving the rim on the tractor and using the sequence of positions described in the Gemplers article you can drop the beads into the well at the top of the rim.
Gravity can be your FRIEND for once.
 

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