moving round bales with this?

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dirt clod

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Kubota L3300, m5700, case 580se
My L3300 is to small for jobs I do. I know I need bigger, but got to work with what I have for awhile. Large Round bales are too heavy on the fel, same goes for pallets of seed/feed. Would the King Kutter Pallet Mover Model# PM-15 work ok for both pallets and round bales? Would the hay just roll off the side? I can not seem to find any measurements for this model.
 
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I would say that the pallet mover is not going to work for you unless you have way of chaining down or securing the bale once on the pallet.


Round bales, even with a rear hauler attachment, can be squirrelly and do weird things. I've lost bales simply driving through the field that seemed well in place and secure....bump here, rock there.....there they go.


Getting a decent 3-pt round bale moving attachment is not that expensive from places like TSC or Norther Tool, etc.....$200-400.....that'll do a much better job.
 
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I agree, the KK pallet mover probably wont do well with round bales. They will tend to flip off the back and will be difficult to get the pallet mover under the bale since the tines are not flat. I also wonder if your L3300 can lift a round bale. How big/heavy are the bales?

An item to consider is a 2 wheel bale mover that is pulled by the drawbar. These have a long spear that goes into the bale. The bale is then tilted forward by a winch or hydraulic cylinder. The weight is then mostly carried by the 2 wheels on the mover. I have an old, homemade version on the farm. Sitting in the trees somewhere.... I have seen comercial versions.
 
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I sure moved a lot of round bales (5' x 5') with a homemade version of the King Kutter pallet mover on a 50 hp White tractor. Personally, I think it would work just fine. Of course, you pick up the bales from the end, not the side, so they won't roll off.
 
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I sure moved a lot of round bales (5' x 5') with a homemade version of the King Kutter pallet mover on a 50 hp White tractor. Personally, I think it would work just fine. Of course, you pick up the bales from the end, not the side, so they won't roll off.


I'm with Bird. I've probably moved thousands of them by now with a home made, 2 long prong, 3-pt attachment. Back up to the end of the bale, drop the forks and back up under it, pick it up and off you go. You do occasionally lose one off the forks but that's usually because it's not on straight. It's no big deal to runa around and pick it up again. If that's what you want to do, I think it'll work just as well as a bale spear on the back.
 
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Thanks for the replies. As for as picking up with the 3 point I have no doubts it will. These are the large rolls that fill a hay ring nicely. I have been carrying these with clamps on the fel bucket, its not a "relaxing" job though. Some I guess are wet or packed tighter as the fel will not lift them above the hay ring.
I'm getting the 27 1/2" harbour freight quick hitch. Another member made some forks that would fit into it for a carry all. Thinking about making something like that except with a bale spear for each lower hook and one for top. Could make a setup with forks also. I already have the supplies on hand to build so it would be very cost effective.
 
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That Ag-Krane is pretty Kool! I'll have to show that to Pop. I think it would look good behind our M4900!
 
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You must be moving 1200lb round bales? If so, I'll think you'll find that the width required on rear forks to cradle the bale won't fit into a pallet. So a fixed pallet mover is out. I don't see any value in a rear pallet mover (except the one like Paul posted) as you can't get anything off of a truck or trailer anyway. What are the specs of your setup? I looked around TBN and found some posts saying about 1056lbs. for the L480. I found your 3pt. capacity listed as 3000lbs., but I'm not sure how accurate that is as the same set of specs listed your machine weight at nearly the same...

If I were you, I would get a 3pt. bale spear and forget about moving pallets...
 
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I rigged this 3ph bale/pallet mover from some old bale spears and some scrap metal. I had it welded up and it works great to move both pallets and bales. My total cost was around $25. Not pretty but it works great. I now have bale spear which attaches to my front loader but I used to simply push the round bales off my hay wagon and move them for storage.


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Here is a photo of one of my hay wagons with a few 5 foot rounds.
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You must be moving 1200lb round bales? If so, I'll think you'll find that the width required on rear forks to cradle the bale won't fit into a pallet. So a fixed pallet mover is out. I don't see any value in a rear pallet mover (except the one like Paul posted) as you can't get anything off of a truck or trailer anyway. What are the specs of your setup? I looked around TBN and found some posts saying about 1056lbs. for the L480. I found your 3pt. capacity listed as 3000lbs., but I'm not sure how accurate that is as the same set of specs listed your machine weight at nearly the same...

If I were you, I would get a 3pt. bale spear and forget about moving pallets...

As for as getting off the trailor, The last bails I bought was loaded on my trailor by a 30 something horse 2wd tractor useing a rear 3 point spear. Its the same trailor my kubota rides on. Don't have to drive up ramps to unload though. They are easy to push off. Thanks for the info on my tractors specs they sound about right. I am running a couple of hundred pounds more that factory specs on the relief valve. It does make a big differance. Don't know about the weight of the bails. Most around here are sold by the bale not weight. There stored outside so I'm sure they weight in a lot more when the weather is wet. I will most likely get a larger farm type tractor later. I'm keeping the little 'bota though. It is real nice for small jobs. Used it today to move a ac unit on top of a 8' platform and for parking lot repairs at another place.
 
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I know you can push bales off a trailer, what I meant was trying to use something to move bales that would also work for pallets, i.e. you won't be able to unload a truck or trailer with palleted feed from your 3pt.. I'm really thinking of safety here, too. You will be stable with a big round bale on your 3pt., but reall iffy with it on your FEL, esp. when you get tempted to lift them up to stack them, drop them over rings, etc.. Rear bale spears work great, no messing around, and they're inexpensive. You back into the bale, lift and go. As far as not having ramps, if you work off of trailers a lot, put your FEL to work and build a farm ramp (dirt ramp to trailer height).

I'd like a smaller tractor, too. I can see it in my future...(as soon as I convince her of how much she can do with it ;))
 
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dirt cloud, as to the weight of the bales, do know there can be wide variance in the size of round bales. If pricing over the phone ask the size and take that into consideration on the price.
 
 
 
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