Now first off, I am not familiar with Kubota's new B series. But, I shopped the B7610 against the 2320. I went green. One of the biggest reasons was the height adjustability of the mower deck on the 2320. It was way easier and had more options/positions than the Kubota. The dial on the Deere makes it a snap. I have also watched my neighbor take of his 60"MMM on his B7510 and can say my Deere's drive over deck is awesome! Maybe it has changed on the new B series, but I just thought I would point it out. My 3 acres of yard is flat, so the two range trannie isn't an issue for me. Good Luck.
Mowing Mowing hills with a 2320
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thatguy
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I have a 2320 and not experienced any problems rough cutting (w/ LX4) the the hills behind the house, but I only mow in low range (and 4x4) though.. I had been using a 790 with a 5' rough cutter previously and the 2320 may be very, verly slightly less stable, but nothing scary so far..
The drive over MMM is a snap to put on and take off.. I cant imagine having to slide a mower deck that big under the tractor everytime though..
I very seldom ever use HI range, except to move on road or on very smooth fields.. At a good speed bumps get magnified quite badly.. When you are in HI it really doesnt have much power pulling any sort of incline. I doubt you could run a mower in HI unless it was a very level.
good luck in your decision
Brian
The drive over MMM is a snap to put on and take off.. I cant imagine having to slide a mower deck that big under the tractor everytime though..
I very seldom ever use HI range, except to move on road or on very smooth fields.. At a good speed bumps get magnified quite badly.. When you are in HI it really doesnt have much power pulling any sort of incline. I doubt you could run a mower in HI unless it was a very level.
good luck in your decision
Brian
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ChuckinNH said:
Chuck, just a side question. When you say that you found a 'marked difference', what exactly did you notice that caused you to conclude that it was more stable? Was it just a feeling or did you actually notice some symptom that made you feel that way? I am just curious when people say tractor feels more stable or less tippy etc.. In my mind, I'm thinking that unless one actually lifts a tire or see some actual evidence of lowered stability (short of rolling it), that such feeling might be more psychological than anything else.
I am sure the Kubota B2620 is a great machine, but I can speak to my experience with the JD2320. I mow the 2-3 ft deep ditch 1/4 mile each way from my yard and feel my 2320 is as stable on a side slope as the lawn tractor it replaced. I just don't make any sudden turns. As far as speed, my yard has a moderate slope from front to rear and I am able to easily mow in second range going uphill. I can even plow 6-8 inches snow uphill in high range.
Regarding the extra features like quick change bucket, I soon found that the bucket is great for moving earth, mulch and snow, but floating tine pallet forks are best for moving everything else. I switch between them pretty often. If you plan to use a rear blade or box blade at all, you will soon discover that position control makes controlling your cut depth much easier. I will second the previous note that there is no issue with the 3pt arms rubbing the rear tires on a 2320. That appears to be a 2520 problem.
Regarding the extra features like quick change bucket, I soon found that the bucket is great for moving earth, mulch and snow, but floating tine pallet forks are best for moving everything else. I switch between them pretty often. If you plan to use a rear blade or box blade at all, you will soon discover that position control makes controlling your cut depth much easier. I will second the previous note that there is no issue with the 3pt arms rubbing the rear tires on a 2320. That appears to be a 2520 problem.
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Superduper,
Part of the feeling is in my head, and part is in my gut, but that is based on a few thousand hours of using different tractors. Of course the feeling is magnified with seating height, and each tractor takes a while to get a feel for. There is also a physical sense based on how lightly the tractor is sitting on the upper side. If you aren't packing the grass down, for instance, daylight isn't far away. I have seen tractor rollovers, though I have never experienced one. On the small BX22 that I had, it seemed that the backhoe raised the center of gravity the most, but driving the same places with, and without the loader on "felt" more secure without, and it makes sense. Our small tractors are much narrower than the old small ag tractors, and you don't have to raise add much weight above the centerline of the axles to feel it. My BX had loaded rear tires by the way, and was a real billy goat without the loader, and hoe attached.
Part of the feeling is in my head, and part is in my gut, but that is based on a few thousand hours of using different tractors. Of course the feeling is magnified with seating height, and each tractor takes a while to get a feel for. There is also a physical sense based on how lightly the tractor is sitting on the upper side. If you aren't packing the grass down, for instance, daylight isn't far away. I have seen tractor rollovers, though I have never experienced one. On the small BX22 that I had, it seemed that the backhoe raised the center of gravity the most, but driving the same places with, and without the loader on "felt" more secure without, and it makes sense. Our small tractors are much narrower than the old small ag tractors, and you don't have to raise add much weight above the centerline of the axles to feel it. My BX had loaded rear tires by the way, and was a real billy goat without the loader, and hoe attached.
BigD9
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This comment is almost word for word the same as I saw written in another E-Group, except in that group it referred to diesel pusher motor coaches that are worth $200,000 new!!!!! You would think mistakes from a previous year would be a top priority, but sadly they don't seem to be.
BigD9
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Woody71, What do you mean by "position control"?
JSR LLS said:
JSR LLS,
The new Kubota B now has a drive over deck. They also have a deck height adjustment knob similar to the JD2320.
For those who say that they don't have a problem mowing in high on moderate hills, what RPM are you running? It looks like the min (according to the gauge) to run the mid PTO is 3000 rpm, but the engine will spin higher if you throttle it up. Does this help? Are you damaging the engine by running it full out for prolonged periods of time, or does it not really make any difference?
I test drove the JD2320 yesterday on the dealer lot, at exactly 3000rpm, and it seemed slower than my lawn tractor when in low. High didn't seem all that much better. It was hard to really tell however, I didn't spend a lot of time on the machine, and the lot was full of snow. I also didn't run it at a higher RPM (didn't want to freak out the salesman, given that it was snowing at the time, and there were cars coming and going in the lot). Its a very nice tractor - but this speed thing is a concern. I want to spend less time mowing, and more time with the family. I don't want to spend all this money, and find that I'm going backwards.
Mike058
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BigD9 said:Woody71, What do you mean by "position control"?
Since no one's piped up, I'll take a stab at it. There are two ways to get the 3PH up and down. One is a simple valve that directs fluid to the piston that raises the arms. When pressure is released, the weight of the implement pulls the arms back down. That's called 1/4 inching. The position control is more like an elevator. If your box blade is at the perfect height when the lever is at 4, you can lift it up by pulling the lever to a higher number. When you're ready to put the blade back to work, you just move the lever to 4 and you're good to go. But you can't use either system to apply down pressure with the hydraulics. Gravity pulls everything down. You can do a search on the two terms and see all the big discussions about them.
