MSRP schock on Ford F150 prices model year 2015 and newer

[davesl708]

When you buy new you loose 20% or more in value the moment you drive off the lot. That is a lot of fix-up money on a used truck.
Not to mention taxes, tags and insurance will be lower. At least in my state.

 

[Capricious]

When you buy new you loose 20% or more in value the moment you drive off the lot. That is a lot of fix-up money on a used truck.
Not to mention taxes, tags and insurance will be lower. At least in my state.

The loss in value is relevant only when you are selling; I had my previous truck since July of 2002. Hope to keep
this one as long.

And, oddly enough, the current "used" value the websites show for the truck I just bought are the same
or higher than what I paid for it. (actually getting that price might be a different matter).

If I had purchased a used (rather than new) truck back in 2002, most likely I would have had to replace the
used one well before now, and paid the sales tax on that purchase at that time.

Another issue is that I tow a trailer on 420-mile road trips, and a break-down on a road trip to the boonies can
be expensive. If I mostly drove around town, that might change the equation a little bit.

Plus I have (2) old mowers, an old diesel tractor, an old house, and other old stuff to work on. And I am getting old.



There are lots of ways to rationalize one's decision.

 

[Diamondpilot]

The problem is that the pricing of new trucks has driven up the cost of old trucks- great if you are selling but not so great if you are buying. "..Maybe the 0% interest offered is bringing in the buyers... because they sure do seem to be selling..." Yes they are, and mostly the "upper trim" models. It would appear that buyers are not much concerned with the pricing, as buyers are opting to buy trucks loaded with every option. (3) weeks ago I bought the cheapest new crewcab 4WD truck I could find- A Nissan Frontier. $26,500.00 cash and it took almost a month and (3) walk-ins (and 2 walk-outs) of the dealership to get that deal. According to Edmunds and KBB websites I got one h___ of a deal on it (well below invoice after subtracting the "holdback") , but that is still the most expensive vehicle I have ever bought, by a large margin. The 6,000 lb towing capacity will handle what I need to haul, and is more than a base Ram 1500 quad cab or base Chevy "work truck" will tow, and I couldn't get close to that price on those vehicles, never mind the Ford. A big problem with Ram/Ford/Chevy is that dealers won't stock a basic truck with just a few heavy-duty options. They have "box-stock" trucks so they can advertise a low price, and everything else is loaded with options. If I could have found a Ram 1500 with just the few options I wanted, I probably would have bought that, but they all had packages with names like "appearance", "popular" and "convenience" that ran the price way up, and little in the way of "heavy duty". I saw one Ram 1500 with the electric brake controller and trailering mirrors, but with the standard 6 and 3.21 gears, it was limited to, like, 4,750 lbs towing. Didn't make any sense to me.

Why not order? I never buy off the lot. I get what I want down to tire brand.

Chris

 

[Capricious]

"..Why not order?...'


Because after buying about (6) new "off the lot," and special ordering (1), I am convinced I get better deals buying
what is in stock.

Whenever there are incentives, those incentives are always limited to "dealer stock."

Lately, I haven noticed the incentives limited to "vehicles in dealer stock the longest."

 

[ultrarunner]

He would order and has a list of essentials... in other words he does not want the glass moon roof, cargo organizer, 3 steps and ramp... etc.

He does want the King Ranch, FX 4x4, and Max Tow with 6.5' bed...

It will be the first new truck for him and he tends to keep vehicles 10 to 15 years and really needs to be able to tow 10k without issue and the 4x4 for the ranch in winter... the King Ranch is a want and not a need.

 

[ultrarunner]

Yes they sell well in the sticks too.

I'm always amazed at how many people in the south have trucks for no other reason than to get groceries and take out trash. It is more convenient I must say, but a large price to pay for a vehicle.

I tow with mine, can carry the family and take out the trash ;-) . I bought mine in -'07. It was an '06 leftover. F-150 Lariat 4X4. Sticker was $44k. I got huge incentives because of last year's model and I have a large discount at work for automotive supplier deal. Traded in a paid for truck as well, so only ended up financing $22k. Still thought that was crazy money. Fact is, same truck today is considerably more. At that time I could have got a nice diesel 250 or 350 for $50k nicely equipped. Can't do that now either. Wish I had at the time. They had also had a left over 250 diesel for about the same price in a manual tranny but it was an extended cab instead of crew cab and not as well appointed. To this day, I kick myself for not buying that one instead.

We have a few new trucks here at work and none work for their keep... maybe a piece of furniture and a couple will tow a travel trailer once or twice a year...

Back in the 70's I was always driving a truck... a C10 with coil springs and later a C20 with a higher GVW... both trucks worked hard as in hauling dirt and gravel for neighbors to earn a few dollars... no exterior dents in either... but the bed had plenty of dents inside.

The C10 with coil springs was not a good truck because of the rear coil springs... in my opinion

 

[STx]

Yes they sell well in the sticks too.

I'm always amazed at how many people in the south have trucks for no other reason than to get groceries and take out trash. It is more convenient I must say, but a large price to pay for a vehicle.

I tow with mine, can carry the family and take out the trash ;-) . I bought mine in -'07. It was an '06 leftover. F-150 Lariat 4X4. Sticker was $44k. I got huge incentives because of last year's model and I have a large discount at work for automotive supplier deal. Traded in a paid for truck as well, so only ended up financing $22k. Still thought that was crazy money. Fact is, same truck today is considerably more. At that time I could have got a nice diesel 250 or 350 for $50k nicely equipped. Can't do that now either. Wish I had at the time. They had also had a left over 250 diesel for about the same price in a manual tranny but it was an extended cab instead of crew cab and not as well appointed. To this day, I kick myself for not buying that one instead.

Would that have been a 2006 with the last year of the 6.0 or the 2007 with the first year of the 6.4. If it was the 6.4, you dodged a bullet.

OP, if you think sticker on F-150's is bad, take a look at the stickers on those shiny F-250 and F-350 diesel trucks. You could almost buy a Mercedes E63 AMG for what they're charging for diesel trucks now, which seems insane to me.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Would that have been a 2006 with the last year of the 6.0 or the 2007 with the first year of the 6.4. If it was the 6.4, you dodged a bullet. OP, if you think sticker on F-150's is bad, take a look at the stickers on those shiny F-250 and F-350 diesel trucks. You could almost buy a Mercedes E63 AMG for what they're charging for diesel trucks now, which seems insane to me.

Actually the 6.0 ran through 07. The 6.4 came out in 07.5 as a 08 model year.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

We have a few new trucks here at work and none work for their keep... maybe a piece of furniture and a couple will tow a travel trailer once or twice a year... Back in the 70's I was always driving a truck... a C10 with coil springs and later a C20 with a higher GVW... both trucks worked hard as in hauling dirt and gravel for neighbors to earn a few dollars... no exterior dents in either... but the bed had plenty of dents inside. The C10 with coil springs was not a good truck because of the rear coil springs... in my opinion

I agree on the coil springs. We have a couple new Dodges with coil springs and compared to our Fords and Chevys they are worthless. 800# in the bed and they are squatters.

Chris

 

[ultrarunner]

I agree on the coil springs. We have a couple new Dodges with coil springs and compared to our Fords and Chevys they are worthless. 800# in the bed and they are squatters.

Chris

Had that 1970 C10 in high school... 350 V8 with automatic... that was it.

Sometimes I would give a friend a ride home... he was large to put it nicely... when he stepped on the Barden Bumper the whole corner of the truck dropped about 10"