My letter to Kioti, loader rerepair, long

[MessickFarmEqu]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Many of the Kioti dealers are not going to have truly professional welders in their shop so they will farm out the repair. )</font>

This is a real issue. Woods is now shipping thumbs for their smaller backhoes. One of the biggest issues they had to tackle was if they where going to be available as a weld on option due to the lack of skilled welders at most dealers. In the end they decided to allow it as a weld on with a strong recomendation that you have it factory installed.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Many of the Kioti dealers are not going to have truly professional welders in their shop so they will farm out the repair. )</font>

This is a real issue. Woods is now shipping thumbs for their smaller backhoes. One of the biggest issues they had to tackle was if they where going to be available as a weld on option due to the lack of skilled welders at most dealers. In the end they decided to allow it as a weld on with a strong recomendation that you have it factory installed.

 

[TractorLegend]

Has the Kioti loader frame been improved since?
Is there certain build dates known to be problematic?
I doubt I've thrashed mine enough yet but figure its about as "old" as Highbeams...
Sure would be a hassle for any major work, since i don't own a trailer for my tractor.

 

[TractorLegend]

Has the Kioti loader frame been improved since?
Is there certain build dates known to be problematic?
I doubt I've thrashed mine enough yet but figure its about as "old" as Highbeams...
Sure would be a hassle for any major work, since i don't own a trailer for my tractor.

 

[RedRocker]

It looks to me like a pretty simple fix. The cracks originate where the doubler stops, extend that gussett all the way around the access hole and I'd bet you'll never have a problem. Pardon my crude "paint" sketch, but you should see what I'm suggesting.

 

[RedRocker]

It looks to me like a pretty simple fix. The cracks originate where the doubler stops, extend that gussett all the way around the access hole and I'd bet you'll never have a problem. Pardon my crude "paint" sketch, but you should see what I'm suggesting.

 

[gravel13]

That's exactly what I was figuring for a fix but I'm not a mechanical engineer. Hopefully in the very near future I'll know what my fate is.

 

[gravel13]

That's exactly what I was figuring for a fix but I'm not a mechanical engineer. Hopefully in the very near future I'll know what my fate is.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

<font color="blue">( Many of the Kioti dealers are not going to have truly professional welders in their shop so they will farm out the repair. )</font>
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This is a real issue. Woods is now shipping thumbs for their smaller backhoes. One of the biggest issues they had to tackle was if they where going to be available as a weld on option due to the lack of skilled welders at most dealers. In the end they decided to allow it as a weld on with a strong recomendation that you have it factory installed. </font>

I'm really surprised to see that more dealers don't have qualified welders. I guess when I was shopping around I went into the shop area and talked with the service manager, looked over their shop carefully and even talked to a couple of the mechanics. I don't think either of the dealers I deal with currently are large operations, but they are not small either. Both are family run, and both only have 1 location. Both have people who I'd trust to weld, both have basic metal working equipment, but neither is a fully equipped machine shop.

Isn't that what most people expect from a dealer? What qualifies people to become a dealership?



RedRocker . . . I would suggest that your fix might (?) be incomplete because to gain any significant tortional rigidity the fix should not only be welded to the crossbar to hold the cracks, but it should also be attached to the main loader arms to stiffen the loader to prevent cracks. JMO

EDIT : See my attachment, I used your original drawing and drew over it. But I would think the new plate that is added should look something like this, and preferably would have a 90 degree bend, with about a 1" lip on each end where it could be welded to the 2 loader arms. It would give a lot of structural rigidity by tying the 2 loader arms together very securly and reinforcing the crossbeam too.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

<font color="blue">( Many of the Kioti dealers are not going to have truly professional welders in their shop so they will farm out the repair. )</font>
<font color="green">
This is a real issue. Woods is now shipping thumbs for their smaller backhoes. One of the biggest issues they had to tackle was if they where going to be available as a weld on option due to the lack of skilled welders at most dealers. In the end they decided to allow it as a weld on with a strong recomendation that you have it factory installed. </font>

I'm really surprised to see that more dealers don't have qualified welders. I guess when I was shopping around I went into the shop area and talked with the service manager, looked over their shop carefully and even talked to a couple of the mechanics. I don't think either of the dealers I deal with currently are large operations, but they are not small either. Both are family run, and both only have 1 location. Both have people who I'd trust to weld, both have basic metal working equipment, but neither is a fully equipped machine shop.

Isn't that what most people expect from a dealer? What qualifies people to become a dealership?



RedRocker . . . I would suggest that your fix might (?) be incomplete because to gain any significant tortional rigidity the fix should not only be welded to the crossbar to hold the cracks, but it should also be attached to the main loader arms to stiffen the loader to prevent cracks. JMO

EDIT : See my attachment, I used your original drawing and drew over it. But I would think the new plate that is added should look something like this, and preferably would have a 90 degree bend, with about a 1" lip on each end where it could be welded to the 2 loader arms. It would give a lot of structural rigidity by tying the 2 loader arms together very securly and reinforcing the crossbeam too.