My Neighbor Mows Some of My Lawn

   / My Neighbor Mows Some of My Lawn
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Thanks, guys. You are great!! I love this place.

I am very fortunate that my neighbor seems to be a good guy. It is nice to know what my legal bottom line is here, but I will probably start just by looking him in the eye, thank him for helping out, maybe make a joke about him not falling off his tractor on my side of the line ..... and letting it go at that.

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I cut part of my neighbor's yard around his house pro bono. I do it because he lives about 25 minutes away. No one lives in the house that I cut around. He plans on eventually razing it to build a new one for him and his family. He doesn't seem to have the time to cut his lawn. I started cutting his yard because part of my property is right next to his. I thought it would improve the appearance of both of our properties if I cut it. It takes me only about 30 minutes per cutting on my JD 425. He seems to appreciate it since he thanks me every time he sees me and gives me a nice portion of his venison harvest every deer season.

So, maybe, just accept this as a nice thing this guy is doing if you sense he's doing it for altruistic reasons.

Bob
 
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Rancar,

You are a true neighbor. I look forward to having neighbors who help on another in times of need, and in common course of daily business.

Keep on cuttin.
 
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Being neighborly is a great and good thing and I hope there are no surprises down the road for you. If you have a good easy going relationship perhaps you aren't risking much now. What if it soured? No one needs flood insurance, or a spare tire, or medical coverage, or xxx when everything is ideal but what would be the impact if the "worst case sceanario" occured? It would be prudent to take the minimum legal steps required to defuse any potential adverse possession claim down the road. If you don't care about the small amount of property involved or what this guy's heirs and assigns might do if he were hit by a meteorite some time down the road, then just keep on grinnin'. The minimum requirement might be not much at all and like chicken soup offered to the dead, well, "It can't hurt!"

I currently have a neighbor who is mowing 850 ft x 30-40 ft of my property on a regulalr basis for two years now and still continues to do so in spite of the fact that my lawyer wrote them a letter directing them to stop a while back. Second letter is going soon to be followed by a law suite (my first ever initiated or defended) if the second letter doesn't get results. What do you suppose is in their minds? The suit will be for tresspass and will get a determination by the court of the property lines (there are registered surveys) and then a 5 wire barbed wire fence will go up.


Patrick
 
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Patrick,

If your lawyer is involved I guess it is safe to say that you tried to resolve the problem yourself and were unsuccessful. How long did you try to work this out with your neighbor before involving your attorney and what kind of responses did you get from your neighbor in return? Does he contest whose land it is that he is mowing? Do you think he has ulterior motives for continuing to mow despite your pleas/protests?

Sounds like this will get ugly (uglier?) before it is over. Sorry to hear you have such an un-neighborly neighbor. Not trying to be nosy, just curious.
 
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Patrick...

<font color=blue>If you have a good easy going relationship perhaps you aren't risking much now. What if it soured?</font color=blue>

If the relationship with my neighbor soured, then I'll simply do as I did before. I'll ignore his overgrown yard and let him mow it himself if he gets around to it. This isn't a big deal with me. I do it to try to do something nice for this neighbor and his family because I know they don't have the time themselves to do it. If they don't appreciate it (not the case now) or all they can think of is ulterior motives and legalities, then this is no big deal either.

I know where you're coming from and I think it's a sad testimony of the times we live in when Americans have to think always about legal ramifications of their actions, no matter what they do. We're forced by today's culture to conduct actions along the path that you suggest. But, at times it just feels good to do something contrary to conventional practice and to help someone else in need without expecting to receive anything in return.

Bob
 
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cstocks, Let me see now. Here is a little background...I started out trying to get along with this guy when he bought his 1.2 acres, surrounded by my land on three sides, and paid little heed to the folks lined up around the block to tell me how no good crazy he and his wife are. I prefered to make my own assessment even though a friend whose judgement I trust as a lay psychologist in these matters said there would be no long term satisfaction without fencing the guy in. I was wrong, bad wrong. I ran the guy in the computer at the county seat to get the ground truth on some of his "exploits" and interviewed his ex boss (chief of police at Norman, home of the OU football team). My observations and surmises were confirmed and additional data points, in character, were collected.

The neighbor mows some of my property, has a fence jutting out into it, has shot down a large treeof mine with repetitive rifle fire, and most recently has shot down some steel fence posts and claimed the cows knocked it down and he has made demands including one by fax to get a steer as compensation for damage to his garden (cows got in due to his ruining my fence with rifle fire.

As we are in a rural area shooting is legal. Tresspassing, though illegal, is essentially ignored by law enforcement. Shooting onto, across, or at my property is tresspassing even if the shooter is not physically on my property.

OK, Now then... The last time I talked to him in person was the day I was collecting evidence from the tree shooting (cut the tree up and saved the important pieces, full as they were of rifle bullets. That was the morning of 9-11. Soon thereafter I had my lawyer send him a letter requesting that he pick an old flawed set of survey pins, or the new ones placed with great accuracy as THE boundary and I would cooperate as required to make that THE way it reads on my deed, paying any court recording fees. He was given something like 30 days to respond with a non-response signifying his selection of the new pins (only ones I can legally justify without his cooperation). He did not reply as requested by mail but instead called my lawyer and rambled on and on making various random threats.

Now nearly a year later he has not complied with any of my first letter's legal requests and will soon be in receipt of a second letter, my BAFO (best and final offer). I have drafted the letter for my attourney who will add any required legalese and (in his words) translate it into 6th grade English so as not to talk above anyone's head. The neighbor will be given 10 days to produce a written response choosing one of three options I am offering: 1. old pins, 2. new pins, or 3. slight restructure of the shape of his property to improve it in his favor, in my opinion. Likely he will not comply/respond, at least this is what we expect.

Now having notified him twice and a good long friendly neighborly wait in between I will bring suit against him for tresspassing. A result of the disposition of the suit will be a determination by the court of the boundary. Whether or not anything else happens, I then have a court approved boundary along which to build a 5 wire barbed wire fence. The judge, I think, will be impressed by my patience and attempts to be fair and offer options rather than dictate to this neighbor, even though I would be within my legal rights. So happens that the sheriffs deputy that came out and took the last report (shot fence) used to work part time for the prev owner and will testify the fence was in good condition prior to this neighbor moving in.

There is just bunches and bunches more but you get the idea. You can search the tbn archives about crazy neighbor or whatever, this was discussed a lot previously.

I an making no representation that your case is similar and hope that it surely isn't BUT I recommend you do whatever is the minimum to insure there could not be a claim in the future.

Patrick
 
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rancar Bob, let me clarify something that might not be too obvious. I am on excellent terms with every one else around me, across from me, or that I have met living within a few miles of me. In fact, thinking back, I don't recall a single solitary person in this geographic region that I have met that I don't get along with just fine with the exception of THOSE NEIGHBORS. Only owning this place for 4 years, I'm still a newbie and haven't met everyone but I am impressed with the character, honesty, and friendliness so far.

Since buying this place I have had several business contacts turn into personal friends who trade dinner invites back and forth. My buyers agent from the transaction, the builder of my mom's house, the local chief of police (I'm outside of his jurisdiction), the pumper tending the wells on the place, the propane company owners, various small business owners. It is a great bunch of folks who have accepted us as friends. Just last night I was down the road a mile for a birthday dinner (I was guest of honor) and boy did they pull out all the stops: chicken fried steak in mounds, mashed potatos and gravy, beans, corn, salad, chocolate cake, pecan pie, and cherry cheese cake. All the surplus deserts were sent home with me and I'm still full.

I would be happy to never speak or deal with my one neighbor ever again if he would just be civil and not tresspass or create a hazard to life and property with dangerous shooting practices. I have no intention to harm him in any way or "get even" but I have to take the steps required to insure safety and my rights of ownership and the free and open use of my property, including fencing.

I hope you have exceptional luck with your neighbors as that increases the joy of living by a good margin.

Patrick
 
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Oh, okay! The dim bulb just came on! I know exactly what kind of neighbor you have. I have been following your misadventures in your "That neighbor" thread. I just did not make the connection.

I feel for you. Of all the millions of people in the world you had to get stuck with one of the biggest jerks of them all to have as your neighbor. I know that stinks. Good luck in resolving this dispute.
 

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