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/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #1  

ctc1111

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Kubota M7040
It has been quite awhile since I first posted here. Last time I posted here was when I just bought my JD 2210. Well a lot has changed since then. In april I traded the 2210 in for a 2009 Kubota L3240hstc. Of course having the factory cab, it has the radio, a/c, and all that nice stuff. The machine now has about 178 hours on it, and I have been loving it so far.

Three weeks ago, I also purchased a 2010 Kubota M7040 with the hydraulic shuttle shift. I now have about 60 hours on this machine all from snow plowing. I run a 10 foot snow pusher on the FEL of this machine and we plow a large commercial parking lot of a home improvement store. The machines were bought for, and are mainly only used for snow. I would like to start looking into bush hogging, but I am not sure how much of a demand for that service I would find in my area (I own a landscaping company).


Now onto my ballast question. Both machines are pretty light in the rear end. They both have filled tires, but for the heavy loader work these machines see it just doesn't cut it. I'm not sure where to start on how much weight, what size box, etc.

First machine is the L3240. We use this primarily to trim out islands in the parking lot, follow the large machine and pick up windrows with an 8 foot pusher I run on it, and stacking snow. When I have operated this machine, I feel the rear tires get very light and have even had a corner lift briefly on several occasions. I talked to my Kubota dealer about a box for this and they told me they have some boxes that would add about 400 to that tractor and thats the only size box they can get and they may be able to get some kind of aftermarket one for it. So what size box should I be asking for and how much weight should I be looking at having in it? It has the LA724 loader.


Now the M7040 which also has filled tires. This machine isn't lifting as much as its pushing. The only time it really lifts a lot is when it is stacking the snow at the end of a push down the lot. In light snow it doesn't even think about pushing that box. But we recently had a 8 inch storm of that heavy concrete snow, and it was getting tossed around by it, and the tires would spin all the way down the lot (600' push). I have seen in pictures ballast boxes on machines this large, however the dealer doesn't seem to have, or be able to get anything, or just aren't to interested in getting one for a machine this large (I can't tell which it is). My concern is that if I add to much weight to the back for traction, it will begin to take weight off the front end which would make the steering even worse with a load in the box. So what direction should I go in with this machine?

Thanks for any input, and enjoy the pictures!
 

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/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #3  
I think a ballast box is a waste of money. I would uy something that you can use. If you bought a rear blade you could move snow forward and reverse. You could also use it to move gravel or dirt.
 
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I think a ballast box is a waste of money. I would uy something that you can use. If you bought a rear blade you could move snow forward and reverse. You could also use it to move gravel or dirt.

Ok, but with a rear blade we are only talking like 400 pounds for a 6-7 foot model. On a M7040 that is nothing. Plus many of them don't have a trip system. I would hate to hit a sewer cap with that.
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #5  
There is a member on here - Timber - I think is his handle- that made a ballast for a small tractor (B7800) out of a garbage can or 55 gallon filled with concrete - about 800 pounds I think. You could have a box fabricated to the cubic ft/weight you need, fitted out with three point attachments - fill it with concrete - paint it orange - it would look professional. Know any welders looking for work?

concrete = 144 lbs per cubic ft.
 
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/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #6  
The cheapest solution is a trash can or 55 gallon drum filled with concrete/sand Etc.

I wasn't talking about some blade you would buy at TSC. I was talking about something that weighs at least 1000Lbs and at least 8 feet for your big tractor but probably 9 or 10 feet. The Landpride RBT55120 weighs 1753 Lbs

Land Pride 2009 RBT55120 Blades

How about Woods RB1010 1535 Lbs
Woods Equipment Company - 84'', 96'', 108'' & 120'' Heavy-Duty Rear Blades - RB Series

For the smaller tractor a 7 foot blade that still weighs close to 1000 lbs
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #7  
+1 on bstrom's post.

When I was a kid my grandad had an old ford jubilee or similar. All I ever saw it do was move hay rolls. It always has the 55 gal. metal drum filled with concrete hooked to the 3 pt. hitch. But we also tend to be a little "red" in AL.
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #9  
I understand the concern about taking weight off the front. I also wouldn't want something hanging off the back that is gonna make the tractor even longer than it already is.

How about rear wheel weights?? Not sure what is offered for the 7040??
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #10  
I built a bracket that fits onto my quickhitch that I then can add a remove suitcase weights for a large agricultural tractor. There is room to get at least 1000lbs of weight or as little as 100lbs. It has the advantage of not hanging out the back too far plus all the weight is between the rear wheels.:D
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #11  
Wheel weights. They make them for the 7040 that are 200lbs each. So an extra 400 on the rear or you can double them up on each wheel for 800 lbs. This with the filled tires should be more than enough for pushing snow around.
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #12  
You sure need more weight in the back. You can see one of the wheels come off the ground for a split second in the video.
I would second the 55gal drum filled with concrete. It would be enough for the smaller machine but the 7040 needs more then that. If you feel like building a box and fill it with concrete that would be the cheapest. The wheel weights are a good idea too but they sell them at a price as if they were made of gold.
Nice rigs.
 
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Also the wheel weights won't take any weight off of your front axle when you do the big lift. I think there are at least some members here that agree that you want the rears to do most of the work and have most of the traction back there anyway. It's not so bad to take some weight off the front axle and put it on the rear, the front wheels are still going to assist. Will it mess up your steering? You'd have to try it I guess. Maybe you could borrow a heavy 3-point implement first before investing in wheel weights. If it works get a large ballast box. You must be picking a lot of weight to lift loaded tires that big - seems like you would have to experiment with how much weight on the three point hitch.

Nice tractors by the way - must be a good contract.
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #14  
Kubota site lists the weights at 164lbs ea up to 3 per side , so with hardware to mount them you would be at 500 lbs per side or 1000lbs total . They also list a ballast box for 575 $ , no weight listed for it . To me a heavy duty hyd . rear blade would be the best option , although the most expensive .
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #15  
Thanks for the mention, Here is the ballast I made for my tractor. I put 800 lbs of cement and rebar in a 55 gallon drum. I am sure you can put a 1000 lbs in it. I have a nice lid on the drum so the cement is about 8 inches from the top. I keep it full of chain and cable slings. The 1 think I would do different is I would set the rod at a hight close enough that the drum could have added support from the draw bar rather than relying on the 3 point lift arms. I am sure it would never be a problem but the draw bar is right there. I have no problem plowing snow or stability with forks. The drum fits in tight between the wheels. I usually have a box blade on using the loader because they are companion pieces but for any heavy lifting and moving at speed with a load I use the drum for stability. I am not a fan of loaded tires personally. There are time I want the tractor very lite for field cutting and work in the woods when I want a soft foot print. I should also mention that because of where the rod goes through the drum at just above center I have no need to use a top link. If you watch the snow plow link you can see it doesn't move at all. This is the best ballast I have for its size and shape. By the way the snow I am moving in the video is the same storm you are talking about in the original post

snowtractors008.jpg
 
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This is what I did for ballast. I didn't like the look of a barrel filled with concrete, but that's just my taste. I constructed a form and inserted my catagory 2 bar and welded in the trailer receiver so I could at least pull a trailer with it. I also welded 2-2" angle iron back to back at an angle to receive the 3rd member with a pin. I also stuck in 2-3" pvc pieces with drain holes in the bottom along with 2-2" pieces which is great to haul the saws and tools back into the woods. There is just enough room for the basket in between as pictured to haul the chains, gas, oil, and whatever I can fit in it. It will stay there all day and not come out. It ends up being 1300 # which is just enough to keep my tail on the ground along with my tires loaded when I max out my loader. All in all in works great for me and is very easy to drop anywhere and hook back up if I need to.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=152911&stc=1&d=1264263839

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/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #17  
Nice, looks like you've got the whole outfit on there. I never know where to put all that stuff when getting firewood out, it ends up all over the ground. Thanks for the ideas.
 
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Thanks for the mention, Here is the ballast I made for my tractor. I put 800 lbs of cement and rebar in a 55 gallon drum. I am sure you can put a 1000 lbs in it. I have a nice lid on the drum so the cement is about 8 inches from the top. I keep it full of chain and cable slings. The 1 think I would do different is I would set the rod at a hight close enough that the drum could have added support from the draw bar rather than relying on the 3 point lift arms. I am sure it would never be a problem but the draw bar is right there. I have no problem plowing snow or stability with forks. The drum fits in tight between the wheels. I usually have a box blade on using the loader because they are companion pieces but for any heavy lifting and moving at speed with a load I use the drum for stability. I am not a fan of loaded tires personally. There are time I want the tractor very lite for field cutting and work in the woods when I want a soft foot print. I should also mention that because of where the rod goes through the drum at just above center I have no need to use a top link. If you watch the snow plow link you can see it doesn't move at all. This is the best ballast I have for its size and shape. By the way the snow I am moving in the video is the same storm you are talking about in the original post

snowtractors008.jpg

Nice! I like the idea of the lid and leaving room for storage. How's the steering when plowing snow with the 800 lbs hanging off there?
 
/ My New Kubota Tractors (pictures) and ballast question #19  
Nice! I like the idea of the lid and leaving room for storage. How's the steering when plowing snow with the 800 lbs hanging off there?

Steering has not been a problem at all, I don't use any chains & one of my neighbors his drive is not flat at all. I did however have a night last week or so I came home to 2 inches of slush snow pack. I pushed everything to the street. It was very heavy and when I went to push the end of the drive It was to dense to move at once & it kicked at the plow angle. I had to move it in 2 parts. The 800 lbs takes no wt off the front axle at all. I know that was 1 of the concerns
 
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Nice pic Timber. My grandad's was similar except... no lid, concrete wasn't all the way to the top like yours also. Most of the metal was rusted away so it looked more like a chunk of concrete shaped like a drum. I guess it was really only similar in idea. :) I wish I had a picture. It was a classic southern implement.
 

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