catskinner
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N ow I'm wanting to get the MS 201 I've been wanting. Nice saw, happy cutting
My New Stihl MS 261C-M 18"
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XSKIER
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Now it's exceedingly obvious that ovrszd has never seen an MS 361 operators manual.
XSKIER
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Is this pix any better?
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Whew, I'm glad someone else knows what I'm talking about. Like I said earlier, I always used to "drop start" my saw. I never did it without the chain brake, and figured it was good enough. Then a professional logger and chainsaw safety instructor taught me the leg clamp method and I agree it's better. Especially if you use the decomp to prevent nutting yourself.
I'm not saying that OSHA approves it so that's why I do it, but once i got the hang of it, I like it just fine. If you are going to drop start, use the brake (actually use it however you start the thing) and if you are going to start a saw with one hand on the throttle, make sure there's nothing that saw can grab and kick back on. I've seen pics of a guy doing just that and the saw started, revved, hit a skidder tire, and hit the guy on the seat of his pants. Not life threatening in his case, but wrecked his day to be sure.
I'm not saying that OSHA approves it so that's why I do it, but once i got the hang of it, I like it just fine. If you are going to drop start, use the brake (actually use it however you start the thing) and if you are going to start a saw with one hand on the throttle, make sure there's nothing that saw can grab and kick back on. I've seen pics of a guy doing just that and the saw started, revved, hit a skidder tire, and hit the guy on the seat of his pants. Not life threatening in his case, but wrecked his day to be sure.
TomSeller
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Page 25 has the half choke.
http://en.stihl.ca/p/media/download/en-ca/MS_261.pdf
My 261 is not Mtronic.
ToyCollector
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I know this thread is already at 4 pages, but also having a newborn son I have no idea how you've got the time to be running around trying out a new chainsaw!!!
I've had an MS-250C for a couple of years now.. I can't imagine living without it. Nothing is better than the knowledge that I can put it away clean and sharp and when I have a tree fall over my fence lines and need it in a hurry it will start and operate without issue as long as I need it to.
I've had an MS-250C for a couple of years now.. I can't imagine living without it. Nothing is better than the knowledge that I can put it away clean and sharp and when I have a tree fall over my fence lines and need it in a hurry it will start and operate without issue as long as I need it to.
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Hey, I'm very open minded. Sometimes opinionated. But always open minded. My willingness to learn serves me well.
I've learned of the half choke system. Although I'd call it fast idle. Because it does not apply enough choke to assist in starting a cold saw at all. Found that out when I first attempted it according to detailed instructions given on this thread. It didn't work. But I adjusted and figured it out.
I just now tried the crotch method. Yep, saw started with the same amount of rope pulls as normal. I saw nothing easier about it. I saw nothing safer about standing leaning forward with my feet together pulling on the rope with my right hand. Very unbalanced.
I'll continue to use the drop saw method without using the compression release because it serves me well. I'm not a muscle bound 30 something. I'm 62, 5'10" 185lb. I use the saw's weight about as much as using arm strength to pull the rope. Takes a good grip which I've got.
This thread has produced a lot of good information that might help some readers. Certainly not intended to sway anyone. I understand why Stihl would equip their saws with the fast idle setting if they are going to recommend starting by using the crotch method or putting your foot in the trigger handle. Impossible to run the trigger while starting with either of those methods. I start with my saw in fast idle too, it's done with my throttle finger. It's all good!!!
I've learned of the half choke system. Although I'd call it fast idle. Because it does not apply enough choke to assist in starting a cold saw at all. Found that out when I first attempted it according to detailed instructions given on this thread. It didn't work. But I adjusted and figured it out.
I just now tried the crotch method. Yep, saw started with the same amount of rope pulls as normal. I saw nothing easier about it. I saw nothing safer about standing leaning forward with my feet together pulling on the rope with my right hand. Very unbalanced.
I'll continue to use the drop saw method without using the compression release because it serves me well. I'm not a muscle bound 30 something. I'm 62, 5'10" 185lb. I use the saw's weight about as much as using arm strength to pull the rope. Takes a good grip which I've got.
This thread has produced a lot of good information that might help some readers. Certainly not intended to sway anyone. I understand why Stihl would equip their saws with the fast idle setting if they are going to recommend starting by using the crotch method or putting your foot in the trigger handle. Impossible to run the trigger while starting with either of those methods. I start with my saw in fast idle too, it's done with my throttle finger. It's all good!!!
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My 261 is not Mtronic, but the one the OP posted a picture of is -- they are relatively new in the lineup. If you look in the photo, it's missing the carb adjustment screw holes on the case, which is the telltale sign (don't even need to look at the switch).