My "Super Duper" Drag

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EddieWalker

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Way back when, I first learned of drags from a friend who had a metal mattress frame that he dragged around his place behind his truck to smooth out his roads. It worked pretty good, but at the time, I really didn't put allot of thought into it.

When I bought my land, I was a member here and had seen various threads on what people used for making a drag, which led me to cut a length of oak and wrapping it with some cyclone fencing that I had. This was my first drag, and first experience using one myself. I was very impressed with how is smoothed the ground out. It had a few drawbacks, but for the price of a chain, it was pretty nice.

The biggest drawback was that it would slide over a bump if it was hard packed or bigger then a football. I would go over a bump several times, but never get it to disappear with the log drag. The other problem was that it rotted out on my last year. I think I got five years out of it, so I'm not complaining.

Instead of making another drag that will rot out on me again and not be able to cut off the bumps like I want it to, I started working on a plan to make a new one. Egon sent me an email a few months ago suggesting I make it out of concrete. I really liked this idea, but had a problem with the weight. I wasn't sure how much weight I could pull effectively, and I also wanted to be able to remove weight from it when spreading seed or going over an area that I had disked.

I wanted a sharp cutting edge at the bottom and I wanted it heavy enough to cut off those small bumps. I'm not a great dozer operator, so I either spend hours trying to get it just right, or I get the backhoe and smooth it out with the loader bucket. Even then, it's not what I really want, and I rely on the drag to get it there. The sharp edge at the bottom of the drag was important in my design. I also wanted it to be tall enough to carry material. Again, I wasn't sure how much, which was another problem I had with making it out of concrete. I was going back and forth on how tall to make the forms before abandoning that approach and switching to angle iron.

I bought a stick of 3in x 3/8's of an inch thick angle iron for the front and back frame. I think 3/8's should be thick enough to hold up to years of use and still hold an edge against my red clay. I cut them to 7ft 4in lengths. This worked out perfect for ten cinder blocks. I used 3/8's inch thick 2x4 steel tubing cut to 16 inches for the ends and middle pieces. The ends could have been made of anything, but I liked them because I didn't have to worry about an uneven lip for my cinder blocks, and they are heavy duty.

I drilled a hole in the tops of the middle two 2x4's for the chain. This worked out very well and made for an easy way to attach it. I added the welds around the hole to give it more strength, but honestly don't think it needed it. That steel is pretty thick.

When I went to buy my cinder blocks, I noticed that McCoys has solid blocks. I never noticed them before, but for $3 each, and 75 pounds each, they looked allot better then cinder blocks. With ten of the blocks, and the amount of steel in this, I'm guessing that it weighs around 900 pounds.

On my first test run, I realized real quickly that I needed a way to hold the blocks in place. The dirt works its way under the blocks and forces them up off of the angle iron. Some fell off, others spun around and all of them lifted off of the angle iron and were riding on the dirt that wedged between the blocks and angle iron.

After thinking about it, I decided to cut some threaded rod that I had laying around, and welding it to the tops of the 2x4's. Then I cut a piece of channel, and drilled holes in it. When I bolted it all together, it became VERY SOLID!!!!

This really did the trick and the results are amazing. It's heavy enough to go right through any bumps in the ground. It holds plenty of dirt in front of it and fills all the low spots with that dirt. One surprise bonus is that it takes out the plants from my roads. I didn't expect this, or even consider it. I can go over a road that is growing over with grass and weeds, make a few passes and it's a nice and smooth, dirt road again. Did I mention how impressed I am with it? LOL

My 35hp, 4 wheel drive tractor pulls it just fine. I can be in mid range, 2nd or 3rd gear for most of my pulling. For the side slopes and wetter areas, I go down to 1st gear, but still have plenty of power. It's more of an angle issue and staying in my seat while on uneven terrain for down shifting.

Let me know what you think.

Eddie
 

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Looks like it works great! :) I am going to need something like that in the future for our place...
 
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Eddie

Wow that looks great and does a good job.

Would you get better control if the chains went to the outside pieces?
Have you tried angling it to move excess material to one side or the other too by angling it?

I have an I beam I use but it bounces around will borrow you block ballast idea and see if it cuts better.

tom
 
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Looks like it does really nice job a lot better than the I-beam that I use.
 
   / My "Super Duper" Drag #5  
Eddie, that looks like just the ticket for dragging dirt and dirt roads. Have you tried it on gravel/crushed rock yet? Can you adjust your tow-chain so that it drags at an angle? I've been considering a crosstie or a large section of a telephone pole about 16" in diameter. The square edges of the crosstie may work best. Perhaps, I could rig up a crosstie with a trailing pole. Hmmm. . . .
 
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OK, LOVE IT......

I have that material here, I am going to make it RIGHT NOW..No Exageration (i own a sheet metal shop)...Mine is going to be a smaller scale, but I am borrowing your design.
 
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Great thinking Eddie. Looking at it and considering different ground surfaces I wondered if sometimes it might pull too much dirt in front. Have you had to adjust weight?
larry
 
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That's is a handy dandy drag that for sure. Nice work;). The only suggestion I have is that I think you are going to find yourself with a rounded off angle on the front iron from repeated dragging. If you want to be able to remove the plants and the angle round off and wont cut well anymore, you may need to add a flat bar stock for a wear edge for continued cutting. Otherwise , looks well thought out.:)
 
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Eddie,

Outstanding job. Simple and to the point, very tuff looking and should last longer than the old log. Are you going to paint it up and make it purty. I just might copy your design if you don't mind. I just happen to have some 6 or 8 in 3/8 in angle. Sounds like a fun project for me.
 
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Nice, I cant believe how well it works!
If I were to make one for use on sandy loom, would I just use less weight?
 
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I'd love to see it made by others and how it turns out for you. I spent quite a few months going over the design so it would be as simple as possible. When I came up with this idea, I really liked it and didn't think I could get it any better. Hopefully somebody can take it from here and make it even better!!!

I really don't need to lift it for any reason. I did think about putting some loops on the top of it so I could pick it up with my forks, but decided against it. If I need to pick it up for some reason, I'll just use my loader bucket and pick it up wit the chain.

I put a little thought into where to mount the chains, but it's all theory. I don't know if wider would be better or not. My thinking was to distribute the load so that the iron was being pulled evenly. Too far apart would mean more pressure in the middle. Too close together would mean all the ends are creating more stress. I thought to get is as close to thirds as possible with the size of the blocks deciding the exact position.

I never thought about angeling it. I'm not sure if that would make it better or not. I like the way it cuts off bumps the way it is. It's very impressive how quickly and easily it works. If somebody tries it at an angle and says it works even better, I'll give it a try, but for now, I'm gonna stick with what works.

I can't say how well it will work in other soils. I do notice that the wetter the soil, the more it builds up and the heavier it gets. At 900 pounds, my 35hp tractor pulls it pretty easily. When there is allot of wet clay built up on top of it and in front of it, I can really notice the extra weight. Since this was an experiment, I was prepared to take off the blocks to get it where it would work the best. That never happened, but when I plant my grass seed, I'm planning on removing all the blocks to drag it over my soil. If that isn't enough weight, it's a simple thing to add a few blocks until I get it right. This is what I like so much about this design. It's very flexible.

I don't have any plans to paint it. Just using it for a few hours and the metal went from rust to nice an shiny. For what I have into it, and an expected life of ten years or more, I don't think paint will accomplish anything. I'll just let it rust and when it falls apart, make another. It only took a few hours to make it, so it's sort of a disposable thing.

I agree that the cutting edge on the angle iron will round off in time. I'm curious to see how long it takes. The other side of the drag is identical, except for the holes to attach the chain. A drill will change that in about five minutes. I can then pull it from the opposite side with that length of angle iron become the cutting edge. Another thought was to weld a bead of a hard welding rod over the edge. I'd have to check the rods to know which one to get. If the wear is an issue, the welding rod should be able to fix it.

Maybe somebody who builds one can do that and see if it helps, or makes difference?

I haven't tried it on my gravel driveway, and probably never will. I'm a big believer in leaving the gravel alone. Then when it needs repairing, buy enough rock to do it right and the leave it alone. My driveway is in great shape and I haven't touched it since the day it went down.

It really is night and day from my log drag. I've never had an I beam or railroad tie to drag behind my tractor, so don't know how well they work. I think the two things that really make a big deal in this is the amount of weight and the front edge being 90 degrees.

Thank you,
Eddie
 
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Good point eddie to use the other side if needed. never thought of it- its so simple isn't it. With the way you got it built, the reasoning behind it if it breaks or whatnot tells me you are "go with flow eddie" :D Kinda like me :):cool:
 
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Eddie
The reason I asked about angling it I sorta wind row the stones they sorta slide out the back of the angled drag then go and then I drive up row and rake them in to loader.

And on our dirt road angles you can finesse some stones/dirt from the edges to the center or the center to the side (depends on how you have it set/ drive and need)

tom
 
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Tom,

I can see where that might work out really nice.

Eddie
 
   / My "Super Duper" Drag #20  
Boy!- J_J borrowing your design? There's a compliment!!! Wish I had that for my 'deer-plot' activities, instead of just my mini ATV disc and chainlink! Ya might just have another 'clone' being 'born' up north!! Thanks! ~Scotty
 

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