NEC Question
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Inspector507
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Have to relate this honest to goodness true story regarding the ground hole on outlets. I was called out for a service call one day. The woman of the house wanted all the grounded receptacles flipped over, get this, at the advice of her psychiatrist. She had been in therapy, and felt that they were little faces smiling at her. I had a hard time keeping a straight face through all that.
Well, I flipped them all over, made out the invoice and collected my fee. As I was looking around the room, I just casually mentioned that they were no longer smiling at her, but looked like they all had holes in their head.
........She screamed........ OH GOD NO!!!
I left real quick.......... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Well, I flipped them all over, made out the invoice and collected my fee. As I was looking around the room, I just casually mentioned that they were no longer smiling at her, but looked like they all had holes in their head.
........She screamed........ OH GOD NO!!!
I left real quick.......... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Poor woman /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Junkman
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I was afraid to look..... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
New question -- but not worth a new thread -- I'm doing some remodeling and just added a combination vent fan/ceiling light to a bathroom. I converted the single light switch (for the wall mounted lights over the sink) to a triple switch in order to control the old lights, the new fan, and the new ceiling light in the fan. The new switch has 3 horizontal rocker switches in the same spot as one vertical switch. We all know that with a standard switch, up is on and down is off. But, which way would you expect a horizontal switch? As you come into the bathroom and reach to the left, should you expect to push the switch away from you or pull the switch towards you, to turn on the lights/fan?
Junkman
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Light on top ....... always..... at least that is the way it is on my NuTone units...
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I put the off position towards the doorway, so you have to push it away from you to turn it on.
dbelisle
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It is a matter of personal choice.
There is nothing in the NEC on the direction of sideway switches.
switches in the vertical position have to be off in the down position.
There is nothing in the NEC on the direction of sideway switches.
switches in the vertical position have to be off in the down position.
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I think you're right. I did it the other way, and I'm uncomfortable with it. That's why I asked. This type of switch has a common feed and three outputs for the hot wire, and I originally installed it so the common hot feed was at the top, not thinking about the switch positions. It's also the way the printing on the switch faced. Then, I got to thinking, it makes a difference whether the switch is to the right or the left of the doorway, so in one of the cases the switch has to be installed "upside down". It will only take me a couple of minutes to change it. Thanks.
Junkman, I originally set it up somewhat they way you said -- I put the ceiling light, which is part of the vent unit, on top. Then, I did it in order of their physical location. The fan was next, and then the lights over the sink, because they were lower than the ceiling unit. Made sense to me at the time, but after using it for a few days, I think I'll put the ceiling light on top, then the wall lights, then the fan. I have to move them around, anyway, to turn the switch over.
(Sigh) No wonder it takes me so long to get these projects done, when I spend so much time thinking about such a trivial matter. But, no one else will see all the work I did to install this unit; they'll only interact with the switches, and will judge me accordingly.
I think you're right. I did it the other way, and I'm uncomfortable with it. That's why I asked. This type of switch has a common feed and three outputs for the hot wire, and I originally installed it so the common hot feed was at the top, not thinking about the switch positions. It's also the way the printing on the switch faced. Then, I got to thinking, it makes a difference whether the switch is to the right or the left of the doorway, so in one of the cases the switch has to be installed "upside down". It will only take me a couple of minutes to change it. Thanks.
Junkman, I originally set it up somewhat they way you said -- I put the ceiling light, which is part of the vent unit, on top. Then, I did it in order of their physical location. The fan was next, and then the lights over the sink, because they were lower than the ceiling unit. Made sense to me at the time, but after using it for a few days, I think I'll put the ceiling light on top, then the wall lights, then the fan. I have to move them around, anyway, to turn the switch over.
(Sigh) No wonder it takes me so long to get these projects done, when I spend so much time thinking about such a trivial matter. But, no one else will see all the work I did to install this unit; they'll only interact with the switches, and will judge me accordingly.
