Need advice on mowing a slope.

   / Need advice on mowing a slope.
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All this brake talk reminds me of one of my concerns and increases my pucker factor. On a couple of smaller slopes I have applied the brakes with the clutch engaged and it felt like the clutch was depressed and the tractor seemed to lurch forward before the brakes applied. I have checked the adjustment on the brakes and they both seem to be fine. I have owned a tractor before (it was a WD Allis Chalmers about 15 years ago) and have driven others and I don't remember that happening with them. It is a very disconcerting feeling which I don't need on that slope. I am not sure what is going on with it. When I apply the brakes it almost acts like my lawnmower pedal that has the brake and clutch on one pedal. Is that normal for newer tractors?
 
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Re: Need advice on mowing a slope

Then, the front axle's differential comes into play. The front differential will stop the wheel with the least rolling friction and allow the other to turn through normal differential action. Thus, with both rears locked and the tractor in 4WD, one of the front wheels is locked so that only one front wheel is turning. If you have a front axle differential that locks up or has limited slip, then all four wheels will stop. This is the effect of 4-wheel brakes through the 4WD driveline.

Close but not quite right. A differential is comprised of 3 things. A driveshaft, and two axles.

At any given time, at least TWO of them MUST be turning. (assuming the tractor is not just sitting still:D)

So...IF you lock the back wheels up and that inturn locks the front driveshaft, either BOTH wheels are going to stop, or they will spin in opposite directions. But it one wheel is completely stopped with the driveshaft stopped, the other wheel physically cannot be moving.
 
   / Need advice on mowing a slope. #63  
All this brake talk reminds me of one of my concerns and increases my pucker factor. On a couple of smaller slopes I have applied the brakes with the clutch engaged and it felt like the clutch was depressed and the tractor seemed to lurch forward before the brakes applied. I have checked the adjustment on the brakes and they both seem to be fine. I have owned a tractor before (it was a WD Allis Chalmers about 15 years ago) and have driven others and I don't remember that happening with them. It is a very disconcerting feeling which I don't need on that slope. I am not sure what is going on with it. When I apply the brakes it almost acts like my lawnmower pedal that has the brake and clutch on one pedal. Is that normal for newer tractors?


I recommend that you first make certain the brakes and complete tractor is all in good working order before you tackle the hillside. I agree with Roy that it would be safer to lock the pedals together and would also wan't to test them to make sure it stops straight on flat ground first. Tractor brakes in good condition should stop the machine quickly if in doubt get them checked or fixed.

I am in the camp of backing up the hill and driving down. I also would walk the area first and do all of this when the ground is dry. Might be a good idea to get used to the tractor with the lesser slopes first and gradually build up to the steeper slopes. No point in getting in a hurry with any of this.
 
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Close but not quite right. A differential is comprised of 3 things. A driveshaft, and two axles.

At any given time, at least TWO of them MUST be turning. (assuming the tractor is not just sitting still:D)

So...IF you lock the back wheels up and that inturn locks the front driveshaft, either BOTH wheels are going to stop, or they will spin in opposite directions. But it one wheel is completely stopped with the driveshaft stopped, the other wheel physically cannot be moving.

BRAVO! Thanks for correcting me. You are absolutely right.:thumbsup:
 
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BRAVO! Thanks for correcting me. You are absolutely right.:thumbsup:

No problem at all.:D

I am sure at one time or another, you have corrected me:laughing:
 
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LD1 and jinman, very interesting reading, it helps to understand why things work the way they do. Another member posted this some time ago and while I am sure it is rudimentary to many, for the rest of us it explains some things:How Differential Gear works (BEST Tutorial) - YouTube
 

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