Need guidance on BB for CT230

[Sabretooth]

MtnViewRanch on again here searching for my BB. I went out driving last night and saw some eqipment on side of road stopped and looked at it mostly same crap missing scarifers What do people do with all the scarifers? I saw the guy had a older Howse 66" with a hinged back rusty but nothing a wire brush some power sanding couldnt take care of that I saw through fence but it was all there. that is the size I think would work best giving me coverage of tire weight think would be in 500 to 600 range being it was at least 1/4" sides. I called waiting on a return what do you guys think would be a good price$$ on it ? Thanks

Edit: would like $400 for the 66"
Said he had another 5' just got would take $225 havent seen it missing a scarifer Aain is there a Fairy Scarifer lady out here somewhere

 

[MtnViewRanch]

MtnViewRanch on again here searching for my BB. I went out driving last night and saw some eqipment on side of road stopped and looked at it mostly same crap missing scarifers What do people do with all the scarifers? I saw the guy had a older Howse 66" with a hinged back rusty but nothing a wire brush some power sanding couldnt take care of that I saw through fence but it was all there. that is the size I think would work best giving me coverage of tire weight think would be in 500 to 600 range being it was at least 1/4" sides. I called waiting on a return what do you guys think would be a good price$$ on it ? Thanks

Edit: would like $400 for the 66"
Said he had another 5' just got would take $225 havent seen it missing a scarifer Aain is there a Fairy Scarifer lady out here somewhere

Sabretooth, I'm guessing that the Howse has individually moved scarifiers, and are not really known for their weight. I would pass on it if that were the case, but that is just me. Most guys get by with the individual rippers just fine, I guess that I'm just lazy and would prefer that the rippers go into the ground further than 4". For me it would be worth the extra $$$ to have the pivoted rippers. This may be a fair alternative to #8, but as milkman636 said, if #8 is the yellow box blade in the picture and 5.5' wide that would be the clear winner. Is that the case, is the yellow BB 66" wide? If it is, then why haven't you bought it yet? :laughing:

 

[Sabretooth]

Its kinda like the one in pic I posted earlier but the scarifer bar (I guess thats what you call) it is round and latches with lever when you pull lever it rotates so scarifer teeth drop down and locks in place at same postion as reg box blade then another lever you step on releases it so if you move foward the scarifer teeth rotate back in the up position and lock that way till you pull lever again dont know how else to explain it? Do not think it can be adapted to Hyd since it rolls it is old but sturdy I say somewhere around 800lbs+ ballpark maybe more compared to weight of what I am finding on the new ones. Based on the pics what would you guys put weight at?
Here I found 2 more like it just the one here that I saw is older and little more worn. Sorry shouldve looked more before posting the other pic found these in a posting on C.L Pic1-3 figure about $175gas at almost half the price and one on Fastline Pic4 no price but figure $75gas
Thank you again

Edit:I did look up Howse their website says theirs comes in at
510 lbs. BB66 5 1/2' Hinged Back Box Blade is it the sides?
Canada_CT230 mentioned earlier his BC boxblade comes in at 436 lbs his is a
5'. I dont know what weight should I be looking at have for what Im going to do thats sustainable

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Besides that those are 60" units, the first 3 pics look to be of a decent old BB. I would guess 650-750lbs without actually seeing it in person. What is the price on it? If you can get it cheap enough ($350-$400?) with the cost of the fuel to get it, it may be worth it. But I still like that yellow one (#8) if it is 66" wide. Even with the higher cost, it is one nice BB.

 

[Sabretooth]

milkman636 MtnViewRanch the #8 from list I listed earlier in post#15 Disregard/Scratch those earlier pics in post #15 those are not it. It looks like the pics I just posted in Post#23 1-3&4 and again now pic1 .
The one at local yard for $800 I do not have the actual pic of it and Do not think Hyd can be added Later because it rolls the scarifers does not lower scarifers as seen in pic#1

About the Howse I went looking and found this on site BB66. Howse says their BB66 5 1/2' Hinged Back Box Blade weighs 510lbs.
Heres a pic #2 from another site of 5' that looks just like the one I saw last night. Sides for toplink are dont know guage? Cutting edge blade not sure if straight or curved website does not say.
Cammonds website says their Boxblade 5' BB60 is 350lbs ?
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Canada_CT230 mentioned his 5' Bobcat BB at 436lbs does well at 4" scarifer digging

So what weight is a good weight? and what depth is good ? Think I created more questions than I when I started:mur:
One question I do know the answer too is I want to buy it once be happy not regret it like some I have read about and get the job done with out breaking bank or tractor hopefully

Thanks to everyone I am new to this stuff and just want to buy it once not regret the decision and wonder what if I brought the other like I have read in other threads. Kinda like this site helped in deciding Bobcat was the tractor for me You all did good on that one I havent looked back

Edit: To MtnViewRanch Post on #24
That one is asking $475 + the gas He is listing it as a 66" but does look like it is 66" if you say 1' spacing between each scarifer plus the space to side I know it has a 60 printed on back but think its right. Sorry I shouldnt of posted that pic when I made list I just wanted to give a general idea of what it looked like #8 from list looks more like the picks I just posted

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I'm not sure how to advise at this point. I really feel that a 66" unit is the best width for this size of tractor. Most likely a unit that weighs 600-1000lbs. Very hard if not impossible to find a new BB that meets those specs. The tractor will easily handle any 60" BB, you would not get the most out of the machine with only a 5 footer IMO. There seems to be no new true heavy duty box blades that are 60" or 66" in width. You have to go up to a 72" width and as I have said, that is just too much blade IMO. Bobcat seems to think that it is ok, I disagree, not that that means anything. The 66" width seems to be just the PERFECT width to me, but to get one of those that is heavy enough leaves you with getting an older used unit. Not that there is anything wrong with that, my 66" roll over was used and some what worn. Sand blasted, paint and flip the cutting edge over and it is almost like new.

With what your options are, I still think that #8 is going to be your best bet. Especially if it is in the 800lb range, it will work good for you and last a lifetime. If you go with #8, see if the guy will take less $$$. When I go and look at this type of stuff, I have the money in my pocket and after talking for a bit ask what is there bottom dollar that they will take. More times than not the price comes down from what they were asking.

Good luck, wish that I could help you more. :drink:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Edit: To MtnViewRanch Post on #24
That one is asking $475 + the gas He is listing it as a 66" but does look like it is 66" if you say 1' spacing between each scarifer plus the space to side I know it has a 60 printed on back but think its right. Sorry I shouldnt of posted that pic when I made list I just wanted to give a general idea of what it looked like #8 from list looks more like the picks I just posted

If it is actually 66", then that is a good price other than the time to drive there. See if you can get him to take a picture with a tape measure pulled tight on it. Why would 60 be on the tail end? I hate to see you drive all that way and it is only a 5 footer. I know that once I drove 3 1/2 hours to get a 12" and 30" back hoe bucket for our Case 580E. Got there, had to wait for the guy to show up and when we got into his lot, I asked him where the buckets were, he said right there as he pointed to a 24" and 18" bucket. I said that those were not what he said that he had, he asked if I could use those instead. I told him I didn't need those sizes, that I already had those sizes. He blamed it on his son, that he told him the wrong size, didn't much matter, they weren't going to do me any good. Point of the story, be sure ahead of time that it is the right width before you drive all that way. Fuel ain't cheap anymore.

 

[Sabretooth]

MtnViewRanch thanks for not giving up Did you look at pic#3 in post 25 I added up on the pic to illistrate that I think it is a 66" I will contact him to see if I can do that with the tape measure pic Good Idea. You posted while I was writing my other thoughts I have been working on it since your other post I just don't type fast I only really can use a 2 of my fingers on one hand and one is my thumb so I am always going back to fix my typing think that did not help in expressing my thoughts and screwed up this thread.

I agree I think a 66" is the #1 option. The tractor weighs over 3k 30hp covers the tracks and would do the drive in 2 passes when spreading the rock.

That #8 that I listed for the $800 in post #15 is close by but looks to be in ruffer shape than the yellow one in Post #23&25. The one in those pics that I just posted looks to be what the guy listed it at 66"(have not called to confirm size though) -Listed for almost half the price of #8 from list but is about $80 fuel one way north I dont think Ill mind the drive if its the right one I use to drive a truck back east long time ago but just want to make sure before hand. If you add the trip plus BB I am up to $630 maybe less if he will take it I know the guy here wont take 25% off his maybe down to $750 if and I repeat if! if I pick it up and put it on trailer myself.
I just got to figure out if that driving that distance is worth more than $100 because I know a picture is worth a thousand words but there is nothing like seeing it up close and in person

I found all except the Bobcat dealer and my wonderful arms dealer do not deal I have been trying for years here saying Im here cash in hand how bout this price, Whats the lowest Iam here, If I paid cash no dice not even 5% everything I could think of saying. Back in Az and NY I could walk into anywhere say a appliance store and walk out with the item say 25% off sometimes more if its damaged like a scratch or somthing way more **** I got almost 25off with the tax when I brought a new Camry00' in Az sticker27K and more gadgets than my 93' and paid less than I did 7yrs earlier. Forget the car dealers here I walk in looking sit down try to negotiate they just want to know what payment Id say I would like pay cash they give me the manufacturer rebate nothing.


Lets see where I get with this thanks again
Figured it out I dont say Y'all thats why I can not negotiate with people here

You know I went to Bobcats site I just wanted to see what my lifting capacity was on the 3pt looks like they added a Comparison chart to it on the different makes/models Never saw it before.
Competitor Comparison - CT230 - Bobcat Company

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Sabretooth, yes I had looked at the picture with your numbers on them, and more than likely you are correct in your thinking. I know that if I were making the trip, I would want to preferably see the tape measure pulled tight on it, but at least hear him say that yes he was the one that measured it, not someone else. I'm thinking that this may be the BB for you. Be sure that the guy has a way to load it on your truck or trailer.

 

[Sabretooth]

MtnViewRanch I would contact before hand and make sure the best I can I like the tape in pic idea think best way knowing. I have Been There Done That wrong parts for car, Oh! goly gee I thought I had a few back there and such, not bad when things use to be less than 10 miles away or if you got something else to do on the route and now with the price of fuel the way it is OUCH!.