need some knowledge on a ford 1600

[BryanM]

I am doing a favor for my father in laws friend who just lost her husband. Trying to get her ford 1600 tractor ready too sell. Its been sitting outside for a year. It started right up with a new battery but when I loaded it on a trailer I that it is leaking hydraulic fluid out of the front end loader cylinder. I think it also has another leak too of hydraulic fluid.

My question is I have found two fill caps 1 under the seat or close too being under the seat- It has a dip stick- Is that the fill for hydraulic fluid? And what kind does it take?

#2 fill hole is at base of steering coloumn what fluid is this? Both are low the second one does not have a dip stick but I can put my fingure in the hole and do not get any fluid?

The tractor I believe is a ford 1600 with a fel, hours are 1250. Its grease zirks have not been touched its bucket has cracked welds, seat torn up it is 4 wheel and seems too work but has a spray can paint job withe fenders with light rust. Diesel 2 cyl. anyone have any idea what is worth? or about?

 

[BryanM]

anyone hve any idea of the fill points?

 

[Hooked_on_HP]

You fill it with uthf through the dipstick by the seat. You need to check the model # to see what you have. There should be a tag on the left side of the tractor on the belhousing. Tractor Data does not show the 1600 available with 4 wheel drive.
Bill

 

[stuartshomepc]

I am doing a favor for my father in laws friend who just lost her husband. Trying to get her ford 1600 tractor ready too sell. Its been sitting outside for a year. It started right up with a new battery but when I loaded it on a trailer I that it is leaking hydraulic fluid out of the front end loader cylinder. I think it also has another leak too of hydraulic fluid.

My question is I have found two fill caps 1 under the seat or close too being under the seat- It has a dip stick- Is that the fill for hydraulic fluid? And what kind does it take?

#2 fill hole is at base of steering coloumn what fluid is this? Both are low the second one does not have a dip stick but I can put my fingure in the hole and do not get any fluid?

The tractor I believe is a ford 1600 with a fel, hours are 1250. Its grease zirks have not been touched its bucket has cracked welds, seat torn up it is 4 wheel and seems too work but has a spray can paint job withe fenders with light rust. Diesel 2 cyl. anyone have any idea what is worth? or about?

If you don't hear back from anyone else on the fluids, your best bet is to get a manual. It's about $20.

But here are some generic info.

The hydraulics should be filled from that fill cap in front of the seat. With Universal trans/hydrauilc oil that you can pick up at the dealer or tractor supply.

I am not sure what the one at the base of the steering column would be. Are you sure it's not the front 4wd axle that you are checking (ie: the plug on top of the front axle, near the left (as sitting on the tractor)?

The 4wd axle is filled via the plug on top of the front axle is the fill for it. There is supposed to be a dip stick on the plug. If it's not there then someone may have replaced the stock plug or god forbid the dip stick broke off and is somewhere in the front axle. Nonetheless, if it is 4wd you would fill the axle with UTF. I just pulled the plug/dipstick on my 1620 and the fluid level should be 3" below the machined spot where the plug seals on the 4wd axle housing. So you may not be able to feel the fluid by sticking your finger down there.

Although tractordata.com does not show this model available with 4wd, a google search shows units out there.

For prices, here is a nice graph of what it may be worth.
TractorData.com Ford 1600 tractor prices information

But with the leaks, poor maintenance and cracked bucket you may be looking on the low side.

 

[GasNSteering]

Hydraulics fill at the base of the steering column. Mine did not have a stick but I got a replacement one from the dealer that had one. The one near the seat is for the trans. Both take New Holland 134D fluid. Capacity for the trans is 22 qts and the hydraulic with loader is under 5 gals.

 

[Hooked_on_HP]

Doesn't the 1600 use a shared reservoir for the hyd,trans and rearend like the 1700 and 1900.
Bill

 

[Texas Blues]

I'm guessing not Bill, the dip stick by my 1600 by the steering column is very low, but nice clean fluid. The filler plug under the seat is full to the top and contaminated with water, to the point where its milky. They must be seperate reservoirs. I would not mind some clarity on that myself. I have 5 gallons of hydraulic fluid to use when I get rid of the rear contaminated fluid, not sure what type fluid would go in the front, but it does look the hydro fluid when I fish some of it out. Ordered a crappy IT manual from the local new holland dealer, it MIGHT give the correct information on the oil capacitys and oil type. Wouldnt mind some advice from a 1600 owner who has performed this maintenance. Thanks, TB

 

[Texas Blues]

Poked around alittle bit on the net and found one guy who said that the front filler plug with the dipstick under the steering column was the hydraulic oil resivoir, and the fill plug in the rear under the seat was 90w oil. This makes sense to me, having a dipstick on the hydraulic resivoir and just a fill plug on the 90w. If this is the case, I would be relieved to know that contaminated oil has not been running through the hydraulics. TB

 

[jcrisp001]

I have an original operators manual for Ford 1600. I can copy for you if that is helpful. Email me at jamescrisp@bellsouth.net if I can help.

james crisp

 

[FlaReb]

Re: need some knowledge on a ford 1600 #2

Hello and glad to meet you all. I am FlaReb and this is my first post. Would appreciate any help on this. I am trying to rehad a Ford 1600 tractor. Doing pretty well so far but have come to a "head-scratching" problem. The trans/rear end oil was way over full when I first looked at it (about 2 inches over on the dipstick for the fill port which is under and near the seat). Thought it was water but upon draining it - no water. Figured it was simply overfull so I filled with the recommended 21 quarts of oil specified by the manual and it is over full by 2 inches just like before I drained it. Does anyone know if there is another reservoir connected I needed to drain which holds about 3 quarts or does it have the wrong dipstick? This one is 8" long. Note: the hydraulic fluid change went ok no problems. Thanks and nice to have found this website.

 

[Wolfy]

My 1600 dipstick is also 8". I would have filled it 3/4 then carefully checked it. The only other dipstick is for the manual steering box. I would say drain the extra and run the tractor. Does your 1600 have a loader? That might change the oil amount.

 

[FlaReb]

I don't have a loader, I am going to use it mainly for mowing and towing. Glad to know that the dipstick is the right one. I did at least use half my brain and drained the oil out slow enough to save the extra. How many quarts are you running in your 1600 for the trans/rear end? I do have a smaller dipstick I think about 4 inches for hydraulic fluid. Much appreciate it Wolfy and thanks again.

 

[JC-jetro]

Is the tractor on flat ground when you measure? dip stick cap should not be screwed in in order to read liq. level. transmission and diffy are interconnected by opening in the casting so the hyd fluid should seek the same level. Amount of trapped fluid in the lift cylinder (ie. 3 point lift) can have effect of the apparent level reading. Did you run the tractor to circulate the oil thru the system before you made your reading?

JC,

 

[Wolfy]

Im not sure what my tractor holds, since I fill it by the dipstick. The owner's manual does call for 21 quarts though. The 1600s made excellent mowers though. Plenty of torque and gears to work with. I use gears M-2 and M-3. And it seems like I can mow forever on a few gallons of diesel.

 

[FlaReb]

Hello JC thanks for the post. I had the tractor on level ground and did not screw in the dipstick. I checked the fluid before and after running it. Not sure about the 3 point lift. I don't have a loader but I did have the bush hog lowered completely on the ground. When I got the 1600 it had a few problems and the maintenance had been neglected some but all in all it is pretty sound. Appreciate the help.

 

[FlaReb]

I would agree. It is really good on fuel. Now that I know I have the correct dipstick I will adjust the oil as it requires. I was told it has a 185 degree thermostat. On the temperature gauge it goes about 1/2 inch from the red before it fully opens then it stays put. I will have to check that with my meter. Thanks again Wolfy.

 

[JC-jetro]

I would agree. It is really good on fuel. Now that I know I have the correct dipstick I will adjust the oil as it requires. I was told it has a 185 degree thermostat. On the temperature gauge it goes about 1/2 inch from the red before it fully opens then it stays put. I will have to check that with my meter. Thanks again Wolfy.

Take a look at the link below, it should give you some guidance on how to interpret temp reading. With 3 point down all the oil trapped in the 3 point lift cylinder is diverted of to the sump so level is at the max possible. I don't sweat it as long as you put proper volume of hyd fluid in.

JC,

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...179639-how-much-temp-too-much.html?highlight=

 

[1600 ford]

so for the transmision its hydro fluid and for the gear box its 90 weight gear oil is that wright?

 

[mostly_gas]

Most Fords use m2c-134 oil including the Shibura built ones. My 1700 used suffix "B" or newer, I think the "D" is multi-viscosity oil.

 

[JC-jetro]

so for the transmision its hydro fluid and for the gear box its 90 weight gear oil is that wright?

What is the difference between transmission and gear box? are you talking hydrostatic transmission ?. If you have manual transmission then the gear box/transmission is the same and has Ford-134. You don't use 90 weight oil anywhere. yu would use the same oil in the front drive is you have 4WD.

Jc,