Need Tie Down Advice

[LBrown59]

Hey Guys,
********I am going to be moving a tractor for a buddy tomorrow, Scott

********R U insured ?
R U sure.

 

[radioman]

********R U insured ?
R U sure.

R U really nosy about insurance things ?

 

[jagyzf]

Your plan will work just fine. Just most around here put hooks on then they use 3 chains and 2 binders. They lay the chain, maybe 15' long, across the trailer with it hooked on each end in the stake pocket. Once the tractor is loaded they put the chain tough in each grab hook installed on the tractor then use 2 separate chains on the rear as you had planed with tensioners. This snugs everything up as long as the tractor is in neutral. Once secured put it back in gear.
Chris

Federal tie down regs require 4 chains and 4 binders on equipment (I think over 5000 lbs). One chain and binder also need to be added for each attachment, so if it had a loader, brush mower, etc it would also need a chain. Granted as has been discussed on this board each state enforcement is different (in some states none) and hauling ag equipment you may be able to get away with it. I know of people who have been caught and in NY the load is stopped until it is secured properly. The person I was surprised that was caught was hauling his CUT with a pick-up and trailer as you described and was sited.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Federal tie down regs require 4 chains and 4 binders on equipment (I think over 5000 lbs). One chain and binder also need to be added for each attachment, so if it had a loader, brush mower, etc it would also need a chain. Granted as has been discussed on this board each state enforcement is different (in some states none) and hauling ag equipment you may be able to get away with it. I know of people who have been caught and in NY the load is stopped until it is secured properly. The person I was surprised that was caught was hauling his CUT with a pick-up and trailer as you described and was sited.

That is not the case here. And in reality its for loads over 10K I believe. It also does not require chain per say, just a tie down.

Chris

 

[scolba]

well, thanks again for all the advice! The chains bolted up well and served as a good winching point. Unfortunately, the tractor ended up being too WIDE. *sigh* Specs said 71", but im guessing thats at the mounting face or something...cause w\ the tires it was about 86...

So we're tracking down a deckover and will give it another go!

Thanks again, everyone!

 

[Diamondpilot]

That stinks. Most tractors have adjustable width wheels, especially of that era. My tractor has 4 different settings. I am guessing they have it adjusted to the widest stance for row cropping or just stability. I bet the 71" spec is narrow stance for that tractor. It would not fit on my trailer since mine is only 82" between the fenders.

Glad the chain and bolt trick worked.

Chris

 

[Duffster]

well, thanks again for all the advice! The chains bolted up well and served as a good winching point. Unfortunately, the tractor ended up being too WIDE. *sigh* Specs said 71", but im guessing thats at the mounting face or something...cause w\ the tires it was about 86...

So we're tracking down a deckover and will give it another go!

Thanks again, everyone!

M's are pretty easy to narrow up to get to fit on a fender trailer.

 

[RobertN]

You may need to remove and reverse the back tires. Those back tires can be on the inside or outside of the main "disk" portion of the rim. You can make the dish in, or dish out. Or, you can swap the tires side to side. And... The main "disk" portion of the rim can slide on those axles.

The rims would be moved depending on how wide your row crops were, and the positioning of cultivator bars and other tools.

You may just need to take a jack, and a breaker bar with a socket for the lug bolts. Just
make sure if they are liquid filled or not; they can get really really heavy if so...

well, thanks again for all the advice! The chains bolted up well and served as a good winching point. Unfortunately, the tractor ended up being too WIDE. *sigh* Specs said 71", but im guessing thats at the mounting face or something...cause w\ the tires it was about 86...

So we're tracking down a deckover and will give it another go!

Thanks again, everyone!

 

[burnetma]

To Robert's point. Liquid filled tires of that size can be dangerous if they get away from you.

 

[Renze]

I'd hook a good chain through the drawbar, then drive the tractor forward untill the slack is off the chain, and stall the tractor so the tires are compressed a bit. Then use an ordinary ratchet strap to pull down the nose.

The chain is whats most important for me: in case of a frontal crash, that chain at the back is whats preventing the tractor to smash over me, and/or into the other vehicle you crash into.

The strap at the front doesnt have to hold an entire crash, just keep the tractor to the trailer in case of a rollover. The strap wont damage your paint. The chain is hooked to the drawbar, which usually doesnt have paint left anyways.

No detailed written regulations about number and size of chains here ( only "properly secured with applications that are rated to hold the particular load" which leaves some room for interpretation) but they do get picky on heavy equipment lowbed combinations though.. Tickets arent nice if they catch you.