Need to match pinion and ring gears?

   / Need to match pinion and ring gears?
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#31  
Soundguy said:
It probably wouldn't hurt to knock that seal out and repalce the bearing too, as you are now thinking. Now that we know how it was damaged, it's clear there was alot of pressure there when that shaft sheared. You'd hate to get it back together, and have the bearing die and wipe the seal out and loose the oil and hose the new gears. I know this stuff is mission creep.. but sometimes it pays to invest another hour and few more bucks just to ensure the problem is really completely addressed.

While you are at it.. i'd take a mic or dial caliper and check the bearing carrier for 'round'.

Yep.. sounds like a tough deal on the nut. Here's a question... does the bolt protrude thru the nut any? If so, any chance you can get a slim 'jamb' nut to set on topand help lock her down? Or would a wrench not have any access to that area either?

good luck.. post pics, and keep us informed.

Soundguy

I'll check out the bearing and replace if it shows signs of being anything other than smooth.

I'm tool-challenged to do a "round" check, so unless I find the bearing is messed up I don't think I will make the tool investment for this project.

On the nut, I was planning to do what I think you are saying. I was able to clean up the threads on the nut that was crossed by running a tap through it, but this will have compromised the threads somewhat. Fortunately it looks like only the first 1/3 or so of the threads were damaged, with the remainder intact. Regardless, I bought a longer bolt and a second nut to crank down on top of the welded nut. I believe there is room to do this, and I can get a wrench in there.
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #32  
I thionk you are on the right track with the helper nut.

As for checking round, even a cheap micrometer will work. However.. if the bearing is good and doesn't bind.. you are probably safe..

Soundguy
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #33  
Tom_Veatch said:
Navy? NAVY???? Oh, we're in trouble now!!!!!

Hhhmp..squid, indeed. I might buy "Leatherneck", "Gyrene", or even "Jarhead" (if said with a smile), but "SQUID". Them's fightin' words.:D


(Oh, OK. If backed into a corner, I'll admit that the USMC is part of the Navy, but please don't quote me on that.)


Oops... :eek: [Maxwell Smart] Sorry about that, Chief.[/maxwell Smart]
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #34  
We export the highly acccurate machines and they pay someone $1. per hour to put in a blank, then remove it. With the computer driven machines, they have an accuracy of .001 or even .0001. They can check themselves with lasers, etc. So why would a company need to waste time in matching them up if they are exactly right.

I wish that was true. There are vitually no makers of machine tools left in America. It is the USA that imports the machine tools, not the other way around. What was once a huge industry with names like Giddings & Lewis, Cincinnati, Bridgeport, Hardinge, Atlas, is with very few exceptions, gone. Admittedly, the brands of machine tools you can buy today are quite good, but...they're not here. What do you do when you desperately need an industry (such as wartime) and it and all the expertise that went with it are gone?

Imagine trying to fight WWII without a machine tool industry, which we do not have today.
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #35  
cp1969 said:
Imagine trying to fight WWII without a machine tool industry, which we do not have today.

Take that a step further. Imagine trying to fight a war, with no machine tool industry.. now imagine the 'enemy' you are fighting is the one where your country has been outsourcing all the manufacturing jobs to for the last 25 years due to cheap labor..

scarry huh.. .. don't even have to imagine very much.. it's a real possibility..

Soundguy
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears?
  • Thread Starter
#36  
All fixed. I ended up replacing the bearings too, mostly because I messed one of them up during removal. Fortunately the local auto parts store was open today (Sunday) and had them in stock. Now when's the last time THAT happen? I also added the helper nuts on top of both nuts that were damaged in the previous repair.

Good as new.
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #38  
hayden said:
All fixed. I ended up replacing the bearings too, mostly because I messed one of them up during removal. Fortunately the local auto parts store was open today (Sunday) and had them in stock. Now when's the last time THAT happen? I also added the helper nuts on top of both nuts that were damaged in the previous repair.

Good as new.

You are indeed lucky that your local auto store was able to help you. usually.. only places like napa have come thru for me. the regular auto stores only seem good for oil and some spark plugs, car air freshner, and remanned alternators..e tc.

Soundguy
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears?
  • Thread Starter
#39  
Soundguy said:
You are indeed lucky that your local auto store was able to help you. usually.. only places like napa have come thru for me. the regular auto stores only seem good for oil and some spark plugs, car air freshner, and remanned alternators..e tc.

Soundguy

Yes, I was shocked. I figured I'd spend at least an hour phoning around looking for places that were open on Sunday, and end up finding out none of them had the bering. The first place I called had them in stock and was open all day.
 
   / Need to match pinion and ring gears? #40  
cp1969 said:
I wish that was true. There are vitually no makers of machine tools left in America. It is the USA that imports the machine tools, not the other way around. What was once a huge industry with names like Giddings & Lewis, Cincinnati, Bridgeport, Hardinge, Atlas, is with very few exceptions, gone. Admittedly, the brands of machine tools you can buy today are quite good, but...they're not here. What do you do when you desperately need an industry (such as wartime) and it and all the expertise that went with it are gone?

Imagine trying to fight WWII without a machine tool industry, which we do not have today.

Mornin CP,
I have been a toolmaker/ modelmaker for 35 years and Ive been saying what you just stated for years, guess what nobody is listening ! :confused:

Take it one step further, we hardly have any real foundries left either :confused: You probablly dont want to know where we get our castings from :mad: OK, thats enough, Im only elevating my BP !
 

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