Neighbor called the Law on me for shooting

[Midniteoyl]

What? :laughing: First I need a reason to not like noise and then if I don't, something is amiss within me?

Not you personally..

 

[Midniteoyl]

An interesting thing I learned about while working on the wind turbine ordinance and noise is "learned aversion". As it applies to turbines, or guns too I suppose, if you don't like them, how they look, own a coal mine, or whatever, then the noise is much more bothersome to those people--even when they are hearing the very same noise as the people who are not bothered by it.

There is a real physiological stress response to this self-imposed aggravation that can impact health. But the stress is a response to the aversion, not the noise itself. Either way, it can cause high blood pressure and all the bad things that follow that.

I don't think guns have the same issue with ultra-low frequencies that turbines have. This is basically a sound pressure wave hitting you that your ears cannot detect but your body is still reacting to it. Even if guns did have that low frequency sound pressure wave, people aren't exposed to it over long periods of time compared to turbines.

Maybe LD1's neighbor could use a pair of sound-cancelling receiver headphones tuned to PBS? Whatever works.

You just said the same thing I did..

 

[two_bit_score]

It is all a part of the war on guns, which the local news media is more than happy to join in. The "feature story" is still running on our local news channel. About the "noise problem" and dangerous situation this bad person is doing in the western end of a nearby county. He is "firing high powered rifles" over there and that could be dangerous. As well as some neighbors have reported hearing full automatic fire.. AS if firing a "high powered rifle" or a full automatic firearm was illegal or somehow inherently dangerous. No-ONE has reported anything dangerous, like bullets whizzing around their heads at all but still the news media is running and running this story, showing the ominous no trespassing signs the "bad guy" has at the entrance to his property out in the woods. After all anyone who would put up a no trespassing sign is a no good-nick for sure. As you can tell this has got me fired up.. LD1, if you weren't so far away, I would come over and maybe we could shoot some .44Magnum or .308 Winchester at your place.. I would bring the guns and ammo.

James K0UA

Good point. Same as schools the liberals are already teaching kids that guns are bad and they should have nothing to do with them.

 

[dave1949]

You just said the same thing I did..

I suppose I did, I used more and bigger words though. :laughing: I didn't think you meant me personally.

The interesting thing is people are physically affected in a negative way regardless of the origin, from inside themselves or not. Given that that is a known human reaction to situations where something beyond their control bugs them, it is just as real as a health threat either way.

grsthegreat:
"but you know what. I have never said anything to them, and i never would. We all moved out into the country to get away from the stupid city laws about someone controlling where you park your car at night, etc.

its live and let live here."

You moved away from city control, but you don't think about imposing your lifestyle, or that of the dirt biker's, on your neighbors? Maybe they live and let live but at the same time are darn glad when peace and quiet returns--just as you are glad when the bikes get turned off?

How do you know if you are participating in some sort of unspoken mutual suffering agreement, as opposed to improving the neighborhood's quality of life by turning down the noise?

 

[crazyal]

If you think moving into the country means quiet then I hate to burst your bubble. Come fall I have farmers who will harvest their crops well past midnight with loud tractors. I have properties near me that have gotten logged over they years with loud a Timberjack running a Detroit Diesel. In the winter there's snow machines and summer bikes. There's a hill not too far away and the occasional truck will use a jake brake as the go down it. There's always the sound of a chainsaw. Then of course there's someone doing a little practicing with their gun. But that's what it means when you move to the country. I wouldn't trade it for any amount of money and be forced to live in the city. If you want silence then you need to pay for it. Become Ted Turner and just buy enough land so nobody can get close enough.

 

[fordmantpw]

There's always the sound of a chainsaw.

Call me crazy, but I love the sound of a chainsaw in the distance! Brings back memories of cutting wood with my dad when I was a kid. I hated it then, but looking back, I really enjoyed it. Now I have a piece of ground of my own, and my dad comes to help me cut wood since I don't have a chainsaw yet.

 

[dave1949]

If you think moving into the country means quiet then I hate to burst your bubble. Come fall I have farmers who will harvest their crops well past midnight with loud tractors. I have properties near me that have gotten logged over they years with loud a Timberjack running a Detroit Diesel. In the winter there's snow machines and summer bikes. There's a hill not too far away and the occasional truck will use a jake brake as the go down it. There's always the sound of a chainsaw. Then of course there's someone doing a little practicing with their gun. But that's what it means when you move to the country. I wouldn't trade it for any amount of money and be forced to live in the city. If you want silence then you need to pay for it. Become Ted Turner and just buy enough land so nobody can get close enough.

You are making my point. Choosing a lesser of evils: city life or country life, is not exactly what I think we ought to be doing. The idea that silence needs to be bought is a bit odd since relative silence is the natural state of things. How about we make noise expensive?

City or country we have arranged our lives to include noise pollution. I understand farming and logging noise, I have no issue with those types of noise sources. The farming is seasonal and forest land gets logged every ten years at the very most. I grew up in open farm land with a lot more tractors and equipment running than here in New England.

When it comes to someone endlessly riding a dirt bike around in circles spreading noise pollution for hours on end, for example, because they have a toy and nothing better to do with their time, I've come to realize that is idiotic, even though I was one of the idiots years ago. With a quieter exhaust muffler, there wouldn't be much to hear to begin with.

There is no real reason in many cases for sounds over about 35 dBa to leave our properties. That is about how loud a normal conversation is.

 

[dave1949]

Call me crazy, but I love the sound of a chainsaw in the distance! Brings back memories of cutting wood with my dad when I was a kid. I hated it then, but looking back, I really enjoyed it. Now I have a piece of ground of my own, and my dad comes to help me cut wood since I don't have a chainsaw yet.

When you get your saw, wear ear protection while you make new memories. :laughing:

 

[Midniteoyl]

Call me crazy, but I love the sound of a chainsaw in the distance! Brings back memories of cutting wood with my dad when I was a kid. I hated it then, but looking back, I really enjoyed it. Now I have a piece of ground of my own, and my dad comes to help me cut wood since I don't have a chainsaw yet.

Not me.. reminds me I have to get off my @zz and back to work! :hissyfit:

 

[Alan L.]

Might want to check your state laws on providing ID if requested. There is also the possibility even if you are totally innocent you may spend a few hours at the PD/SD if you refuse. Anyone who has worked in law enforcement has had LOTS of people provide false names, so how is the responding officer to know he/she contacted the person about whom the complaint was made?

If there is a state where a cop can walk onto YOUR property and demand an ID from you, and take you to jail when you refuse.......you need to find another state. But, wait a minute..... with Obama as the dictator the FEDS make all the laws and states have no powers.