Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard?

   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #161  
Generally speaking people who let their dogs run around know what they are doing and don't care if that creates a nuisance for neighbors. Occasionally you might find some dim-witted folk who haven't figured that out but usually they are just garden variety jerks. I do like KKs suggestion about a note in the dog's collar, haven't seen that before, and it would be worth trying.
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #162  
I like the note-in-the-collar idea, but the dog isn't going to let me get anywhere near him. I frequently stop my UTV, dismount, and walk toward him swinging my arms and shouting at him to go home. He initially retreats, then reverses and lunges/barks again. It acts like it's been beat before. I frequently hear the neighbors yelling at their dogs as well, so I don't think any of their dogs are particularly well behaved. They've only had dogs on the property a few years, purchased after a mountain lion killed seven of their goats. A month or two after they got the first one, the neighbor asked me if I'd had any problems with it. I replied that it had been pooping in my yard and barking at me, but that it was just being a dog, a hint I hope he'd take to mean he should tether or fence the animal. Apparently it was interpreted instead as an endorsement of the dog's behavior.

They are city folks in retirement, trying to pull off some kind of John Muir turned hippy back-to-the-land trip and bumbling along pretty unsuccessfully. We've had run ins before over the easement, their dog chasing our dog (I don't have a dog any longer), and them thinking I'd done something to cause a pet to go missing (I haven't). They live in a double wide, one of their adult boys lives in a converted barn, the other in a school bus parked under a tree so the county can't see it in satellite imagery. They're the kind of people that blame anyone and anything for their own shortcomings, and I'm sure if anything ever happened to their dope garden I'd be the first one to be blamed. I once got chewed out by the father when I spread gravel around our mailboxes to cover up trenching debris when I paid to have a land line telephone installed. The contractor should have done it, but hadn't, and I felt somewhat responsible. But apparently my work wasn't up to father hippy's standard and in his mind it warranted ten minutes of phone abuse before I hung up on him. We haven't spoken since.

I have looked into building a fence.It will keep the dogs from leaving their calling cards in the yard, but it won't do anything to end the harassment in the easement (I've been threatened with a law suit if I fence my right-of-way). Just for the survey work needed to establish the property line I'll have to lay out about $7K. Apparently my lot has never been surveyed before, and working from a known pin appears to be a big deal. Our common boundary is approximately 1/2 mile long, so we're talking about a lot of fence in very rocky ground, something I'm not looking forward to. It will also involve installing another motorized gate, another significant expense. But it's only money, right?

The letter to animal control goes out today, and I intend to press them to issue a citation. The first one will cost them $50 and they escalate from there. Hopefully they get the message, but I'm not optimistic. Still, I'm open to suggestions...
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #163  
Stop the bike, throw him a hot dog, make friends.
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #164  
Like I said rat shot up close - wont hurt em but stings em and teaches them my place is not nice to be at. Dogs that didn't get the message have disappeared before.
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #165  
I live in the suburbs , ( prefer my old house with land but....) a yuppie neighbors dog would get in my trash every other week . I got tired of cleaning up the mess . I discussed it with him , but no way was it his dog. It happens again , well I was in the window above the trash cans with marking paint with the wand . I painted the dog orange . He came over the next day and asked me If I painted his dog orange , " I looked at him and said no " I came home from work and the carpet cleaning company was at his house . Havent seen the dog in a long time.
I would of told him "No, but I did spray paint a dog that was getting into my trash, but from your previous denials it couldn't have been your dog".

My favorite for dogs I figure I can beat is grab a big stick and "go postal". One of my neighbors raises dogs and for a period I'd see a German shepherd and a pit bull mix dog trotting thru my yard. My first inclination was to acquaint them with Mr. Mossberg, but Mr Big Stick was closer. A little yelling and waving followed by an accurate throw chased them off. Subsequent visits only required going postal with a big stick.

I am looking into getting a paint ball gun to have another level offense between yelling and 12 gauge Mossberg.
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #166  
"Roam all over" is not the definition of "rescue."

"Lick their tong?" What's a tong? Do you mean the dog licks its tong, or licks the odd balls tong? I'm beginning to question your decision to live in that neighborhood. You should move while you still have a good grip on your tong!


I have other distractions in the room when posting, sorry for missing a couple letters. It should be "tongue" and apparently having (open mouth kissing their dog) in the info was too incredibly hard for you to understand. As far as the definition of RESCUE that is "they" claim to be doing with abandoned animals (though as many that show up they are not abandoned as much as searched out by these people.)
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #167  
Oh wow ... rescue type odd ball?

Do you mean one of those people who give of themselves to relieve the suffering, neglect and abuse of a few of God's precious creations? Do you mean one of those people who find it appalling to see dogs dumped in the country, starving near dumpsters, chained to a backyard stake or left out in the freezing rain? Do you mean one of those people who give so much of themselves in an unending effort to repair some of the damage caused by selfish, lazy, cruel and ignorant pet owners that see their animals as unworthy of care? Yes, by your brainless and heartless comment, I'm sure you see those people as ODD.

I don't think Spiker was referring to all rescuers. Only the ones that ARE odd ball. It was an odd ball that was a rescuer. Thus, a rescue type odd ball.

xtn
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #168  
To paraphrase Lincoln, "With malice toward none (of the previous posters), with charity for all..." making an animal pay the price for the failure of a human, either the owner of the animal or the person 'suffering' the consequences (who is reluctant to confront the owner) is wrong and should be a last resort, not the first. Talking with the owner, animal control, SPCA, etc. should all be tried first.
 
   / Neighbor lets dogs out to do their business in my yard? #169  
Thanks for the ideas, fellas! I also like the idea of dousing the scat with bacon grease, and now I have an excuse to go out and buy some bacon (as if I needed an excuse ;). A humane trap is another option I'd consider, and a large bale of manure is a cheap strategy but since these aren't house dogs I'm not sure how much effect it'll have.

I don't think making friends with the dog is going to happen. One afternoon I found a little snowball of a puppy wandering around my garage. The only place it could have come from was this neighbor's house, so I coaxed it back up the drive and gave it a shove toward home. Next time I saw it, it was a full grown Great Pyrenees barking it's head off and growling like a wolf from inside the sheep pen they keep it in. I have no doubt they've encouraged that dog and all the others on their property to be vicious. Some here would argue that's not the dog's fault, and I would agree. But that wouldn't stop it from trying to rip my throat out if it ever got out of the pen. I would defend myself from such an attack, but only as a last resort would I use a firearm. That said, I have taking to slipping a 38 into my pocket when I walk up to get the mail. I probably should have been doing that all along owing to the two legged predators that have cropped up around here in the last few years, some undoubtedly involved with or interested in the neighbor's pot farm.

This neighbor has already demonstrated he doesn't care what I think or about my welfare, not just with the dogs but over so many other issues that should have been cooperative efforts that would have ended up making life better for all concerned. The attitude is he's doing what he wants, regardless of the consequences to those around him. As somebody here said, he's making his problems mine.

For example, not long after I moved in I found a Rhode Island Red chicken on the road down to the lake. It could only have come from the neighbor's house, as the next closest place was almost a mile up the road and the chicken had a broken leg. I wrapped it in a towel and took it home, then started calling around to see if any of my neighbors was missing a chicken. They were the first I tried and they denied missing any even though they had several Rhode Island Reds in their flock. The chicken gradually recovered and figured out how to get around on it's bum leg, but when I found out it was a rooster I gave it to another neighbor.

In another instance, after hearing the local fire chief tell me he wouldn't send a crew down my driveway to fight a fire because it was too overgrown with brush and overhanging trees, I brought a bulldozer in to clear the hazard. This neighbor had told me on several occasions he was planning to clear the easement himself, but after two years had yet to so much as rake a single leaf. The easement is 60' wide, and I had it all taken down to bare dirt, leaving the larger oaks and pines in place, and pushing the debris into bus sized burn piles. My intention was to plant a barley/rye/clover erosion control mix when the rains started the following fall. I told the neighbor in advance that the work was planned, and he responded that what I had in mind sounded fine with him, and his son would get back to me if there were any questions or concerns. A week later I'd heard nothing and the dozer was on site. We had half the easement cleared out when he came marching down the driveway demanding that the work stop and threatening a law suit for damaging his property. I told him to check his deed to see that the work area was within the dimensions recorded there, but he still wasn't satisfied and insisted I "restore" the ground immediately with hay and push the burn piles onto my property. According to him the piles were an eyesore and would give the wrong impression to the guests that were coming to one of the son's wedding that summer. I asked him if they were more of an eyesore than the 40' green and red shipping container parked next to his gate and got nothing but a stare as a response. In an effort to placate him, I did as requested, spending about another $1K to do so.

Later that month I replaced the rusted and bent farm gate at the street with a motorized gate I fabricated, and his kid started hassling me about violating the easement dimensions again. I was shoveling concrete into post holes at the time and lost my temper. I told him that he needed to start minding his own business, because evidently that was the only way we were ever going to get along. I moved some stucco faux pillars up from the lower part of the property and the finished gate looks and works great. Two years later the neighbor started growing dope and figures he needs a motorized gate, too. He installs something more appropriate to a prison yard and piles up his old gate and posts against the back side of the pillars I'd installed. They haven't yet, but with all the problems we're having in the neighborhood lately I wouldn't be surprised if someone stole them. This is just the tip of the iceberg, and I could go on and on recounting his stunts and those of his family. But the point is, the guy's an @$$hat, and he's taught his sons and dogs to be @$$hats, too. No amount of kindness, talking, or threatening is going to change that. My sense is that the county needs to deal with him, and unfortunately it falls to me to get them to do their job.
 

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