Neighbors - Do you have control of your dogs? Time for a posse...

[HCJtractor]

John, your comment about Gibran caught my eye. I too, am inspired by his writings. Tell me what he has written that is your favorite. I have several, but read his works frequently to gain insight into life’s mysteries.

 

[JohnBuffaloMN]

Geesh. Thank you all for the sympathy, empathy, support and love. I means a lot to me since most of my relationships have been strained - by me. My father was abusive, angry and depressed after becoming disabled at 42 years old - abused physically by his father until he ran away at 13 to live with his uncle, who sexually abused him. I was beat plenty of times and learned how to smile through it. That pissed him off worse, but eventually I was big enough physically to finally, at age 14, tell him (two words) that I was no longer going to take that. I believe his abuse is what helped him become a narcissist. He went back to school and started a business, but had victim mentality (something I obviously wrestle with) and ended up sexually abusing my sister and I ended testifying against him putting him in prison - he had a choice get therapy/counseling or spend time in prison. My son had classic signs of trauma - many, many trauma's as a child that twisted his thinking in a way that he just couldn't live with, and I felt completely helpless in my efforts to help him. I knew precious little about PTS, but learned that I myself struggle with it. Suicide tears apart a family in ugly ways. I am about as fortunate as I could imagine I'd be otherwise.

Sometimes the lesson is about me and sometimes it's all about the other. I know why I was compelled to puke all this ugliness out here. If it had been in person and the other party continued to badger me about how horrible a person I am because my Aussie got pregnant by the neighbor's lab - the other party would have either seen they were getting me worked up and stopped or I would have become violent. That's what victim mentality brings out - ugliness.

In my way, I am grateful for those who challenge me - I pray for those who struggle with their own self-esteem - even the narcissists.

“I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers.”
― Kahlil Gibran

 

[Shaneard]

John, my mother in law is narcissist, it sucks. My wife and I don't even want to be around her. My wife has never had a good relationship with her. You never know who your gonna get and her attitude changes day to day. When she starts texting everyday we know she wants something then we won't hear from her for months. She only lives 20 minutes away and we've been to their house once in the past 2 years. Have been to my parents but once in 2 years as well and they live 3 miles from us. I tell you this because I want you to know your not alone with family problems. Surround yourself with good Christian people and forget the rest, it will help you.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I guess we all deal with our past in different ways; for me it was simple. One day I came to an epiphany that has held good to this day. I looked myself in the mirror and gave myself this advice: "Your past is just that. Any baggage you have is just weighting you down. No matter who or what caused you pain, HOW YOU DEAL WITH IT IS YOUR PROBLEM AND YOUR PROBLEM ALONE." I likened it to being forcefully tossed overboard in a lake; being angry and hostile to those that threw you over will get you nowhere; what you need to do is recognize it's your problem now and start swimming.

I also read an article about Cary Grant that was inspirational to me. Seems he was born and raised in a poor, lower class family. His goal was to become an Engish gentleman, so he acted the part, bought the best clothing, worked on is mannerisms and diction, and through playing the part actually became an English gentleman. I believe that has some basis in Psychology.

 

[forgeblast]

“I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers.”
― Kahlil Gibran

Wow that will get me thinking, thanks for sharing it.
When I start going down the rabbit hole I try to tell my self "there is no water, there is no bridge". Its from a book I read where a character says up ahead is a bridge that looks weak, and a raging river what do you do...and the answer is there is no water there is no bridge Stay in the moment, vs the what iffs.
A different rabbit hole gets the response "your choices were not my choices".

 

[Sigarms]

We ARE talking about dogs here!!! DOGS, not anything important really in the grand scheme of things..

A wise man once said "A greatness of a nation can be determined in the way it treats it's animals".

A dog is an animal, nothing more. Man is a animal, nothing more.

Kind of funy that we call a dog "man's best friend", but in your eyes of a man, a dog is nothing really important.

I get it. Dog kills livestock, kill the dog. My only point is do the same with two legged critters as you would 4 legged critters. No difference in the "grand scheme of things".

 

[Sigarms]

I happen to know Sig... He is not a troll, nor would he ever post something he doesn't know about, or feel passionate about. Enough said...

Come on Step, we all know if you don't agree with someone on a public internet site, you MUST be a troll...

But thanks by the way.

 

[Shaneard]

A wise man once said "A greatness of a nation can be determined in the way it treats it's animals".

A dog is an animal, nothing more. Man is a animal, nothing more.

Kind of funy that we call a dog "man's best friend", but in your eyes of a man, a dog is nothing really important.

I get it. Dog kills livestock, kill the dog. My only point is do the same with two legged critters as you would 4 legged critters. No difference in the "grand scheme of things".

When my dog gets a job and supports his family I may see it that way but until then, he's just an animal to me.

 

[Sigarms]

When my dog gets a job and supports his family I may see it that way but until then, he's just an animal to me.

The difference between a dog and man is a dog can't really learn the skill sets to earn money themselves over minimum wage, added the fact that a dog being an animal, they are considered property and I don't believe their wages earned are taxable by the government

That said, kind of feel the same as you way about two legged critters who can work but don't.

 

[newbury]

Well - once any thread gets out into this area( 24 plus pages) - you are surely up to your knees in BS. All the hangers-on have long since had some form of derogatory handle attached to them - the original topic has long ago been forgotten.

We are now into the phase labeled - - "urinating into the wind". Have fun...............

Unfortunately some do not know enough to only urinate downwind.

When my dog gets a job and supports his family I may see it that way but until then, he's just an animal to me.

Do you/Did you have children? Were they only what you call animals until they supported their family?
What type job do you think your dog could get? Computer programmer? Secretary? Guard?

Every dog that has lived with my family has been a good guard dog, most have been good entertainers, some good for hunting rabbits and all have more than earned their keep.