Neighbor's dobermans on my land, protecting "their" property ...??

[dmccarty]

FL is a fence-in state ... regarding dangerous dogs anyway, & cows too I'm pretty sure, from reading an interview with a nearby old-timer who told about the era where FL went from not requiring fencing your cows in to requiring it, so they can't wander out into the road, etc.

That used to happen. My dad can remember cattle sleeping on 50 east of Orlando when he was a kid. FLA used to be and maybe still is, the largest cattle producer east of the Mississippi.

Later,
Dan

 

[EE_Bota]

I tried the "let's be good neighbors" route only to eventually wind up trying to kill their Rotty with manual hedge clippers because I thought he was charging me, when in fact he was charging a pretty jogger. The neighbors had told the neighborhood that they were my dogs, and when the neighborhood heard of my "heroic actions to save the jogger" and of the lies that had been told against me by the very folks who owned the dogs, I never saw the dogs again.

Good neighbors don't try to get over on you like that, so they are not good neighbors and you will not make them so by feeding their dogs your hands.

Barney Fife would advise "Nip it, Nip it in the bud." Failing to do so can lead to lots of profanity, bush damage, and a pretty jogger seeing and hearing things that a young lady should never see or hear.

 

[riptides]

All, I introduced the chickens to the thread to see what the reactions would be. I did so for two purposes, one, they are considered not as dangerous as dogs, two, the basic issue is the same.

The issue is the neighbor will not control the animals. I believe some people, you just cannot talk with, they don't get it. In this instance the original poster has tried communication and collaborative efforts to offer a controlled manner in which to contain the issue. However, the neighbor just does not see anything basically wrong with the behaviour of his animals. They cannot think "what if?".

I would offer this. Under no circumstance would I spend money to fix this issue with material. I would send a registered letter to the neighbor and local animal control, perhaps even the local LEO. I would then wait, and see if the issue has been taken care of. If not, I would call animal control and the LEO out and have them observe the behavior. If that is not possible, well others have stated some more choices.

In my case, the chickens are an issue. My neighbor refuses to contain them, I have tried communicating with him, but he is a very angry person. IMHO. It has not come down to a registered letter yet. Nor will it. As he stated to me ...this is the country, get use to it. IMHO, this offers numerous possibilities.

 

[beppington]

As I read it, the dogs are still left loose in the yard and the only thing which has stopped them from crossing the fence is the owner yelling at them.

Correct, at least on weekends; I haven't yet been by during the week.

Now they may not be left out in the yard full-time, since the wife said they "have pens they would put them in when you call", but I've seen them in the yard about 6 or 7 times total over the time I've owner the property, & the dogs seem to only charge when the owners aren't right there with them, which makes sense. I can't confirm this with certainty, though, since the narrow line of trees our our shared property line is dense enough that it's hard for me to see thru it well, & I never wanted to seem like I was gawking (although my attention has always been firmly in their direction, as you can imagine).

 

[beppington]

What if he goes by just as the owner steps inside to grab the steaks to put them on the grill? Or just after the owner walks inside to do something for a few seconds?

This is the concern.

 

[rsewill]

In a couple of weeks it will be a year since you first posted about this issue and you still haven't come to a resolution.Letting this drag on and fester does your health and peace of mind no good. Solutions have been proffered but you have made almost no progress, with things likely to only get worse as things drag out. Maybe it is time to move.

 

[2manyrocks]

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1. Get paperwork on the dogs, fill out dog warden forms.

Analysis of Dog Bites in Children Who Are Younger Than 17 Years
"The relative risk for a dog attack by a German shepherd or a Doberman was ∼5 times higher than that of a Labrador/retriever or cross-breed. "

Excellent and practical observations.

In the case of the dobermans and the chickens, the underlying problem is an owner who won't control his animals.

 

[dmccarty]

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Good neighbors don't try to get over on you like that, so they are not good neighbors and you will not make them so by feeding their dogs your hands.

Barney Fife would advise "Nip it, Nip it in the bud." Failing to do so can lead to lots of profanity, bush damage, and a pretty jogger seeing and hearing things that a young lady should never see or hear.

Exactly! :thumbsup: If you have to state the obvious to a neighbor then there is not need to try. It is a wasted effort other than CYA.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

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In my case, the chickens are an issue. My neighbor refuses to contain them, I have tried communicating with him, but he is a very angry person. IMHO. It has not come down to a registered letter yet. Nor will it. As he stated to me ...this is the country, get use to it. IMHO, this offers numerous possibilities.

My granny used to make the BEST Chicken and Dumplings. :thumbsup: :licking: Now she made the dumpling so they are FLAT but not too flat. My wifey's side of the family makes Chicken and Dumplings where they dumplings are really noodles. It is good but them noodles AIN'T dumplings. I think it is a NC thing. Now my Yankee grandmother would make Chicken and Dumplings where the dumplings were really DOUGH BALLS. Then she put PEAS into the Chicken and Dumplings. :confused2::ashamed:

My GA granny got it right. :thumbsup:

Chicken and Dumplings is good old peasant food. Since chicken was expensive back in they day, Chicken and Dumplings, allowed you to cook an old chicken that was no longer producing eggs, AND feed a whole bunch of people from a little meat. Chicken was so expensive it was only eaten on Sundays and that was a treat. A politician once ran on the slogan of a chicken in the pot every Sunday.

If I had a trespassing chicken I think I would be having some Chicken and Dumplings like my GA granny would make. :licking: If the chicken looks young you don't have to cook as long as you would for an older bird. Use FLAT dumplings. :laughing:

Later,
Dan

 

[gengine]

Your right Foggy1111, it does go back to the cattle drive days.

Pat, that brings up a shady part of the law. If a person is going to have animals like that, then it is their responsibility to have an adequate fence to contain that animal. I know a bovine bull can probably do comparable damage as a bison, so that's where things get fuzzy.

Dmccarty, you just made me hungry