Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo.

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   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,971  
Your statement is completely untrue. Many civilians legally own AR-15s.

HUH?????My statement as you put it was directed at what PapaPerk said back in post 1806.......(can you believe this thread over 1800 posts and that was back almost 20 pages ago) or did you even read that part? here let me post it again for you.

"I have no problem with people owning AR-15s. And neither does current laws in most states. My point is where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."

The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's so how is my statement untrue? HUH??
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,972  
What he meant was why cannot we own machine guns manufactured after 1986? Why was this amendment tacked onto the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986? Well the reason is because some lawmakers think that owning machine guns is evil. So they tacked on this amendment, to drive up the price of machine guns to the point that it keeps most people from owning them. As the supply of machine guns is not increasing, and the demand for them is. So the prices are sky high. $20,000 is a common price for many of them now, or even more. All because someone has decided that owning them is evil, and we want to discourage this ownership. Why? Why do we as a society want to do that? There is no good reason.

No not really, what I said was exactly what I meant to say. He just didn't read the quote or just read out of it what he wanted to read and shot from the hip hoping to hit something.

But what you wrote is correct about how the gubment will often times create an overly inflated commodity with their well intended one size fits all ideas for us peons to live by. This is exactly the main reason the framers gave us the 2 amendment in the first place. It was so that the people could have the ability to reign in these well intended know it all's and put them in their places. Sadly for us we have been too busy trying to scratch out a living, paying taxes and minding our own business to keep and eye on these people.

Politicians have gotten totally out of touch with the people. Once they spend 20, 30, 40 or more years in office they truly feel they know everything there is to know about everything and how WE all should live and act where we go, how we get there. Just send us your money and we will take care of you.

It's not just the gun thing, it's everything we do, what we eat, drink, smoke or how we even heat our homes that they want to regulate. A little here a little there and no one ever notices until one day you find out you are some kind of a felon by just lighting your wood stove or drinking that 32 oz big gulp you got down at the 7-11.

I've heard the same ol argument many times and read it several times in this thread of how no one wants to take away your guns. How stupid of an argument is that?? Do you people really think the idiots in states like calif, NY, and a lot of the democrit controlled cities and DC don't want to see, not only the people in their state and cities but all of us as well stripped of our gun rights that means all of them.

The liberal cess pool states and cities do this and get away with it because their democrit politicians have a willing mass of ill informed people that they can throw out a carrot here and there and a promise or two of how they will keep them safe and secure without any worries in the world. If it just wasn't for those bible toting, gun loving, neanderthals in all those other states we would all be one big happy family.:laughing: Yeah right!!

They didn't do this over night cause even some liberals like their guns. They just think they should be allowed to have them but everyone else is too stewpid' to to get out of bed in the morning let alone have a firearm. When we let these politicians stay in office 40 or 50 years they have a long time to shape the rest of us into the model they know is best. So they stomp on a few of the peoples rights along the way. No worries because as history over the past 60 or 70 years would show no body is paying attention anyway. They have been too busy doing their own thing to notice what has happened.

The best argument I can offer to support my idea on this is the fact that this country just voted an admitted and practiced socialist to the highest office of this land. The sad part is that even after they saw what he was the first go around they had to vote him in a second time just to see if what they saw was true. And.....if any of you have any fantasy that this king want a be would not like to erase the 2 amendment and a couple others all together then I know where some really nice swamp land is for sale really cheap.
 
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   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,973  
HUH?????My statement as you put it was directed at what PapaPerk said back in post 1806.......(can you believe this thread over 1800 posts and that was back almost 20 pages ago) or did you even read that part? here let me post it again for you.

"I have no problem with people owning AR-15s. And neither does current laws in most states. My point is where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."

The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's so how is my statement untrue? HUH??

Yes, I read your post and all of the posts in this thread. What you meant to say and what you actually said are two different things.

The part where you say "Right now the only people that have this firepower are the fed and state gubments, the cops and the criminals" is not true, as in accurate.
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,974  
Your statement is completely untrue. Many civilians legally own AR-15s.

what i think he's talking about is what Koua mentioned....a POST 1986 select fire ar 15.. in reference to my comment above about federal restrictions on civilians not being able to own post 86 select fire weapons.. they are not transferable on a form 4 to joe average citizen....

He's NOT talking about a semi auto.. and not a pre-1986 fully transferable , previously NFA registered unit that WOULD be tax paid transferable on a form 4 to joe average citizen..
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,975  
Yes, I read your post and all of the posts in this thread. What you meant to say and what you actually said are two different things.

The part where you say "Right now the only people that have this firepower are the fed and state gubments, the cops and the criminals" is not true, as in accurate.

It probably would be true if it were not for the fact that, and I quote again.....The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's


I was talking about......."where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,976  
what i think he's talking about is what Koua mentioned....a POST 1986 select fire ar 15.. in reference to my comment above about federal restrictions on civilians not being able to own post 86 select fire weapons.. they are not transferable on a form 4 to joe average citizen....

He's NOT talking about a semi auto.. and not a pre-1986 fully transferable , previously NFA registered unit that WOULD be tax paid transferable on a form 4 to joe average citizen..

Thanks Soundguy, I appreciate the help but all the help in the world wont be able to help some folks see the forest for the trees......you know how it is.:banghead:
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,977  
It probably would be true if it were not for the fact that, and I quote again.....The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's


I was talking about......."where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."

i certaintly don't think it should be an arbitrary date.

why is a machinegun made in 1987 more dangerous than one made in 1985?

really?
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,978  
It probably would be true if it were not for the fact that, and I quote again.....The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's


I was talking about......."where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."

i certaintly don't think it should be an arbitrary date.

why is a machinegun made in 1987 more dangerous than one made in 1985?

really?
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,979  
It probably would be true if it were not for the fact that, and I quote again.....The line that is in bold is what I responded to, neither he nor I were talking about AR15's


I was talking about......."where is the line drawn on weapons the public may own."
If you or he were not talking about AR-15s than why did you quote his comment about AR-15s,

And.... as I quoted you....
"Right now the only people that have this firepower are the fed and state gubments, the cops and the criminals"
That is not an accurate statement. Plenty of people outside of those four criteria own exactly what you say they don't.
 
   / Never thought I see the day 22 lr. ammo. #1,980  
"Right now the only people that have this firepower are the fed and state gubments, the cops and the criminals"
That is not an accurate statement. Plenty of people outside of those four criteria own exactly what you say they don't.

how many joe average citizens do you know that have a post 86 nfa registered select fire weapons??

I wouldn't mention their names if I were you.. because unless they meet .. pretty much 1 very very rare exception.. they are breaking the law.
 
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