New 2020 Kiotis

LS Tractor Owner · Apr 16, 2020

Odd that the gear version lists a 2 range tranny, but the HST shows 3. I wonder which is correct?

iptman · Apr 16, 2020

LS mt125 owner said:
11.4 G/min is by far more than any other tractor in it's class. except for LS... 12.6 gal/min. For the MT225E.

Yes but that tractor is not comparable to the CX2510. The more comparably sized LS is the XJ2025 which has the same wheelbase and tires as the CX2510 but the XJ has 8.5 GPM, has 2 speed case and weighs 400 pounds less.

LS Tractor Owner · Apr 16, 2020

Ah, yes, I was thinking the CK2610H. Both of the KIOTI s are great machines.

Otto33 · Apr 17, 2020

LS mt125 owner said:
Odd that the gear version lists a 2 range tranny, but the HST shows 3. I wonder which is correct?

Yep, as much as I REALLY want this to be a 3-range HST, until I see one in the flesh, I'm assuming it's 2-range. On one part of the website it's listed as 3, but on the online spec sheet its "No. of Travel Speeds" is listed as "Infinite: 2R". The engine displacement also seems goofy. It's listed as 87 CI and 1647CC. One of those numbers is wrong.

I asked my local dealer for a quote a few days ago and have gotten crickets. They've had very little actual info on this model since it was announced, but that may be more of a reflection of my local dealer than anything else.

LevesqueOnline · Apr 17, 2020

Otto33 said:
Yep, as much as I REALLY want this to be a 3-range HST, until I see one in the flesh, I'm assuming it's 2-range. On one part of the website it's listed as 3, but on the online spec sheet its "No. of Travel Speeds" is listed as "Infinite: 2R". The engine displacement also seems goofy. It's listed as 87 CI and 1647CC. One of those numbers is wrong.

I asked my local dealer for a quote a few days ago and have gotten crickets. They've had very little actual info on this model since it was announced, but that may be more of a reflection of my local dealer than anything else.

I have a quote out as well, dealer ordered some in figures will be 3-4 weeks, will confirm back what i find out as well

deezler · Apr 17, 2020

So you guys are quoting total hydraulic flow. Is all of that truly available for the loader? On Kioti's KL2510 specs, they list "Rated Flow (Tractor system) :7.66 gpm (29 L/min)", which is obviously a lot lower than 11.3gpm.

iptman · Apr 17, 2020

11.3 GPM is the total flow including the steering and HST. The spec on the loader is just what it needs for full capability.

iptman · Apr 17, 2020

Otto33 said:
Yep, as much as I REALLY want this to be a 3-range HST, until I see one in the flesh, I'm assuming it's 2-range. On one part of the website it's listed as 3, but on the online spec sheet its "No. of Travel Speeds" is listed as "Infinite: 2R". The engine displacement also seems goofy. It's listed as 87 CI and 1647CC. One of those numbers is wrong.

It's the same 3A165LW engine that's in several Kiotis. It's a 1.6 liter/100ci engine. Tier 3 engine just FYI. Where's the spec sheet you're seeing 2 range on it?

Otto33 · Apr 17, 2020

iptman said:
It's the same 3A165LW engine that's in several Kiotis. It's a 1.6 liter/100ci engine. Tier 3 engine just FYI. Where's the spec sheet you're seeing 2 range on it?

Kioti's website, on the "Specifications" tab. The displacement discrepancy is listed there as well.

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deezler · Apr 17, 2020

For speeds it shows "2R" but on the HST info tab it clearly says 3-range. The ranges are contained in the transmission, right? So it could make sense if the gear trans was 2 range, but the HST was 3. We need clarity on this, Kioti!