New 3050 CVT Update

   / New 3050 CVT Update #21  
I finally found the tag on my 3050 and it was not even near the transmission. It is at the very front of the tractor, on the frame, on the left side right under the radiator. My unit is 209 transmission builds after the change over so it looks as if the "new" directions they sent by email today are for my transmission. Puzzle finally solved in my case.
 
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Utopia
Did you get that number from the tag that shows all the tractor information? In the transmission area on my tag it shows 0886/01/13. So my guess is the number is 088 built on 6/01/13??

Yes the tractor did return yesterday. Still evaluating it though. It appears that the transmission vent problem was taken care of. The Forward/reverse problem might still have a glitch in it even though it's working quicker. The pto solenoid was replaced and the latest cpu software was uploaded, but I'm still having problems with the cpu locking up with a 5080 code. Not happy it's been gone for two weeks a shipping bill and it's not 100%. I'll post more later after I have time to run it more.
 
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Yesterday the temperatures here were in the low 20F range and the tractor did something strange that I do not like but will have to live with. When the temperature fell below 25F, and I stepped on the foot pedal, the dashboard screen would go blank and a huge picture of a snowflake filled the whole screen.

Utopia
Same thing happened to me yesterday. Outside temp was around 5F degrees so it must have been pretty cold even inside the barn. I had forgotten to plug the tractor in the night before so no block heater running when I needed it. When I started out the snow flake came up on the screen and limited my speed, then when the tractor warmed up it went away. Last night I went through the owners manual and service manual and found that the CVT trans will limit how fast you can go until the trans oil warms up. "See the attachment" I found it in the Operator's Manual section 4 page 29.
One more thing to smile about.:mad:

Jack

3050 Transmission  low temp Operation.jpg
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #24  
Welcome to the NH cold weather speed limitation club. (NHCWSLC) You are now ranked as a junior snowflake until warm weather arrives. :)
 
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Isn't that just Great!! I think I'm going to pay the electric company to keep it warm.
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #26  
Or you could just do what the drilling companies do with their bulldozers above the article circle.....just let it idle 24 hours a day ! :) Down here this close to the Gulf Coast we sometimes have winters with no freezes but this year has been much colder? Otherwise I never would have known the Boomer has a " self preservation" mode !!!
 
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I never would have known the Boomer has a " self preservation" mode !!!

Talk about self preservation or some engineer building to much Bull S**t into the operating software and not wanting to fix it to make the tractor more usable. Wait until you read these attachments in regards to the PTO problems I am having. It's not the switch (possibly substandard) or the anything with the tractor (software/firmware)it's me I don't know how to use a switch properly????? I have been told that if I wait 10 seconds after the rpm is above 600 rpm (the tractor idles around 975), if I quickly engage the pto (Lift up on the switch), shut the switch off by pushing/slapping it down(not raising the lock collar), and don't rest my hand on it(what about vibrations as I travel across a field) it won't send as many error codes to the cpu and I won't have as many problems. I use the PTO for spreading manure, fertilizer, seed where at times I make turns at the end of a pass which can take in excess of 30 seconds to make the turn. Other times it might be turned on and off more frequently when the field narrows down. I've used PTOs on many tractors for years in this manner never a problem with the tractor cpu locking up telling me I can't turn on the PTO until I restart the tractor!!!

RickB if you have any ideas? Jinman do you??

I was wondering if anyone knew how to bypass all this bull and just turn the pto on and off. I don't need a light on the dash to tell me it's on or at what rate the pto is turning I just need to be able to turn it on and off as I need it not how the tractor wants me to.

These are jpegs of ASIST3a below.
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   / New 3050 CVT Update #28  
The situation with the PTO button sounds similar to an event that happened in my local BMW Z3 club in 2001. Over 90 percent of the Z3 owners had problems with the fuel gauges showing empty tanks when they were actually full. The club president sent a letter to BMW stating the problem and the letter was signed by close to 150 members. About a month later a return letter from BMW head office came back stating that the BMW Z3 was a highly sophisticated and engineered automobile.....and that the problem was that everyone was filling the gas tanks improperly !

If the PTO button on the Boomer just has two wires connected to it I suppose a $1.59 toggle switch from the local hardware store might do but I doubt it could be that simple? Probably many more wires....but might be worth a try. Sounds silly having to cobble up a new unit but one has to do what one has to do.
 
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It has three wires. It's a single pole double through switch (an ON ON Switch) from what I'm seeing in the wiring diagram. but it's not just the switch it's how many times I turn it on how long I turn it on or off in a given period. So I think it needs both a software change and a new switch.
 

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   / New 3050 CVT Update #30  
CVT. who makes this transmission for cnh? Two questions for CVT owners, will you buy another one? would you recommend one to a potential buyer? lt190b
 

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