New 3050 CVT Update

[Jackfr]

No not that I know of. I'm hoping NH will step up again and fix it this time. But we're considering dumping it now. It's already spent over 6 weeks back at dealer for warranty work since we purchased it on Oct 30, 2013. I need something more dependable especially going into our busiest time of year.
I really liked the idea of all the creature comforts but now all I want is a tractor that works like it's suppose to when I need it.

 

[Utopia Texas]

No not that I know of. I'm hoping NH will step up again and fix it this time. But we're considering dumping it now. It's already spent over 6 weeks back at dealer for warranty work since we purchased it on Oct 30, 2013. I need something more dependable especially going into our busiest time of year.
I really liked the idea of all the creature comforts but now all I want is a tractor that works like it's suppose to when I need it.

So if you dump the 3050 what other brand interests you?

 

[Jackfr]

I've been a Ford/New Holland Customer for over 35 years. So I don't know where I'll go. I'm still hoping New Holland will step up and either fix it right or assist in the purchase of another New Holland that doesn't have the computer crap to run it or the problems I've had with this one. I need the smaller size to get into my barns, cleaning the paddocks, snow removal etc. maybe a workmaster 55 and add an after market cab to it for next winter? I don't know what I'm going to do until the dusts settles with this one though. I wish this one worked as well as yours does.

 

[Utopia Texas]

I know what it means to be brand loyal, we have had 5 Ford Tractors and 2 New Holland since we have owned the place, but none of this modern iron has anything to do with Ford even one bit. All of my Pick Up trucks over the years have been Ford and I still own a 1931 Model A Ford and a 1919 Model T Ford. No one likes Ford more than me but I don't know how long I might last if I had the problems you have encountered.
PS- I can't stand the pukie orange color of the Kubota though my largest lawn mower is a diesel zero turn.
With our excess sunlight and humidity down here any Kubota that sits outside for too many years turns a funny pink color!

 

[dpeh]

Quick Update

It's been 3 weeks now since our tractor came back and the tractor now has 207 hours on it. The PTO seems to be working ok. But the power steering is getting worse. It completely stops working sometimes while using forks to move equipment off our pallet storage racks. You have to climb the steering wheel to make it steer. I found small bubbles/foam on trans dip stick, so there is possibly a suction leak somewhere. The transmission is starting to act up again with long delays while shuttling form forward to reverse and there has been a snapping cracking noise from the transmission along with a jerking motion while backing. I talked to the dealer and he contacted the service rep asking him to contact me direct to try and figure out what is going on. I haven't heard back from him so the dealer suggested I call the 800 number again to help get things moving again. I contacted the NH 800 number and they said they would look into it again and get back to me on Monday or Tuesday.

The nightmare continues.

I've got a 2011 boomer with 540 hours on the clock.

I've just moved 60 tons of chalk backwards and fowards 200m with just the loader, which has taken 35 hours, it's done it effortlessly, and I love the tractor to pieces.

We got it second hand, and it's always had a slight shunting in reverse, but only with 4x4 mode on, but it's fine driving forwards, so I just switch to 2wd when reversing to get around the problem.

As for the hydraulics locking up when lifting or pushing forwards, that's the pressure relief valve, it mentions it in the manual somewhere, if you apply too much hydraulic pressure, it's protecting the system, usually lowering the loader, or reversing back the way you came frees the system and it returns to normal, I'd say its' expected behavior.

I do get the hissing noise if I remove the oil plug from the front axle, and the transmission filler plug on the back end.

I also get the steering gurgling sound, you can actually get the tractor in a situation on REALLY steep slopes where you can't turn the steering rack at all (i've had it angled so it's only on 1x wheel), so I feel the front steering is under powered a little.

There was damage to the front steering when we got it, the casting had bent/cracked, someone had broken one of the rams too.

Our Yamaha ATV's have done 5000 hours and 2800 hours, if I can get 2000 hours out of this tractor before I get a major failure I'd be pleased.

Service time soon.

Any recommendations on what to change?

 

[Jackfr]

Update

Well it's been about 3 months since my last update a lot has happened but we are still having problems. Back in mid April I contacted the NH "800" number again, they told me they were closing my case but would be in the background and I was to only work with my dealers Service Rep. (basically sweeping me under the rug). NH refused to pay for anymore transportation or loaners even though the same problems are occurring that the tractor was originally sent back in for. Nor will they assist in trading the tractor in. So for now we are stuck with it as we are still under water with the loan.

The tractor has been back to the dealer again and they found a relief valve on the steering box stuck open. Which they repaired along with resetting the transmission settings. It seems the hydraulic circuit for the steering also controls the PTO thus the continuing problems with the pto. When it came back it worked great for approx. 8 hours then down hill again.

The tractor is now having intermittent 2059 and 2054 stop codes along with the intermittent shuttling delays, intermittent power steering loss and pto delay issues again, along with a new squealing noise and severe shuttering/jerking motion when moving at low rpms to hookup implements, also an intermittent chattering of the hydraulics when lifting the loader to full height. There is also still the bubble/foaming/aeration issue in the hydraulic oil which the NH the Rep said is not a problem.

The dealer sent two techs to the farm last week to try and figure out what was going on. They were able to see the stop codes in the cpu and witness the squealing problem but I could not get the other intermittent problems to happen during their visit as they seem to happen after the tractor has been operated quite awhile. They were going to return and fill out an ASIST to try and figure out what was going on and get back to me. Hopefully maybe a fix that works. (right after they left two 2059 codes occurred makes sense)

I must say the dealer has been great! He sent a loaner at his expense and split the cost of transport with me. He also sent the two techs on the 6 hour round trip at his expense and has been trying to get it straitened out. Though I'm not to Happy with NH as it appears to me they have deserted us. I don't know what good the regular or extended warranty is if they won't stand behind it. These problems have been going on since last November with still no permanent resolution and now no longer any direct contact with NH as that's how they want it.

Maybe it is time for legal advice.

 

[Utopia Texas]

Yes it is time to get a lawyer involved. No one should have to deal with all these problems and have the manufacturer leave them out in the cold. The manufacturers need to stand behind their products to a satisfactory point. Years ago one would buy a tractor knowing it would be reliable and passed on to the next generation for use. It is not unreasonable for you to get what is due to you for your hard earned money.

 

[WCarp]

For those who upgraded the transmission to the Deluxe control version, what are the advantages of doing the upgrade? Was it very difficult? What about the issue where the tractor kept going forward when the your foot was taken off the go pedal? Was that changed at all? I was wondering if newer software has helped with drivability problems?

 

[Jackfr]

As I remember it gives you 3 ranges instead of two, an anti stall switch, the ability to preprogram a speed for cruise control that will be there day to day at the push of a button no matter who operates the tractor. It talks about it in the service and owners manuals that's how I originally found out about it. It was an easy upgrade just change out some switches and a decal then one change in the transmission program. The upgrade kit comes with the switches and decal needed, but you need the programming plug to do the software upgrade. Some dealers will sell you both others won't as they want to do it for you. I purchased both the kit and plug for around $120 and did it myself in about a half hour. It did not help the delay/sticking in gear when shuttling. I don't know if new software is available as we finally "fixed" our 3050cvt by trading it last spring at a great financial loss. Thank god it's gone!!! We had nothing but problems it was in the dealership almost as much as we had it to use. Hopefully you have better luck with yours then Utopia Texas or we did with ours and you are close enough to a dealer with a computer to work on yours so you don't incur the large transport charges we did sending it in for warranty. I see you own a TC45DA also. This a great little tractor with no computer assist problems, very dependable. I wish I had kept ours and spent 1/4 the money rehabbing it we ended up spending/losing on the 3050cvt!! We would have been better off rehabbing the TC45DA HST transmission then buying the 3050cvt! If someone else is considering purchasing a 3050cvt I would strongly advise you against it no matter how good the deal sounds. If you need a Service manual or programing plug for a 3050cvt I have them for sale on ebay at around half price.