New 4720 cab owner

[JAMESFNP]

JAMESFNP

I'm in the same boat. I have Kubota now, and was headed toward NH, but I had the same problem with the no HST at higher HP
Once you go HST you never go back!!!

Yep, HST sure fits the bill for what we use a compact for. However, if the wife could drive/wanted to learn to drive a power-reverser tractor. I'd be shoping for a 5625 JD right now.

 

[Tact]

Congrats on your new JD. I was looking at the Kubota M5040 w/ hydro shuttle, NH TC55DA, and the JD 4720. At first JD was about $4000 higher than either, but today I got a quote from a JD dealer that beat all of them. I always liked the JD better than either of the others, I just didn't want to pay that much more. I'll find out more tomorrow, and I'll possibly be a new JD 4720 owner myself. I wish I could justify a cab as well. I'll be jealous.

 

[JAMESFNP]

I thought I'd give an update. Due to unforseen circumstances, mainly the wife, we are going to hold on the 4-n-1 bucket at present. The wife does not want any payments and the 4-n-1 puts us about $2,000 over this. I don't blame her. I don't want any payments either.

The tractor will come with the joystick controls so that a 4-n-1 or grapple can be added at a later time.

The dealer recommended that we not go with the exterior mirrors. Said we had to many trees around our place and that we'd just tear them off.

So, I have a new quote coming today via email.

However, I had a guy to call today that wants to come and look at the TC45DA. If I can get at least $19,500, the CEO will let me keep the 4-n-1 bucket.

 

[Hydroman 17]

Congratulations on your new 4720! I hope you like it as well as I like mine. I can't imagine it not being able to do anything you want. I work mine professionally landscaping and athletic field work. I put on 600-700 hrs. per year here in VT & NH. I have great support from my dealer with what few little problems I've had. I do wish I had the cab though moving snow but with the backhoe on 80% of the time I'd probably beat my head silly climbing around.

 

[JAMESFNP]

Thanks we are just about ready to pull the trigger. I just need to see if this guy is going to buy my tractor or not. If not, we'll just take a beating and trade it in. Anyway, I'm excited about that cab too.

 

[ahvatsa]

James and all 4720 owners.
Does this tractor have enough power to make use of the dozer feature on the 4-in-1. I need it for road work and moving some clay around to line some small water holes. (Been real dry!) Looks as if I could get more done pushing instead of pulling (box blade).
thanks
al
PS anyone who searches my posts and sees my slam of JD...well, have had to RE-THINK this whole 50hp thing! After driving and comparing several others...crow ain't so bad if you're real hungry!
also looking at MX7 and bb2272 or bb3272.
I welcome any comments or opinions.

 

[Z-Michigan]

I think a 4720 will have enough power for dozing, but traction will probably be an issue. You would probably need ballast and would likely be much better off with R1 tires than with the common R4 industrial tread.

MX7 is probably the biggest cutter you would want on a 4x20, mostly due to weight. I think a 4720 will have enough power for it, though there won't be a lot of margin. For comparison I have an LX6 with my 5105 and it runs it like a toy.

BB2272 should be fine; you may want to go to an 84" width. BB3272 if I remember correctly is in the industrial range and would be fairly heavy for a 4720. Some of the Frontier box blades were made by Woods, but right now I think they are made by worksaver. I recently inspected a BB2284 made by Worksaver and for the same price I expect to be buying a Woods GB84 (whichever model is the Woods' medium duty box).

 

[proglassco]

James,

I have a 4720 (if you search my other 2 posts, you will see that my baby is having a new motor installed), and I got the 400cx loader with the 4 in 1. It was the first one of these buckets that my dealer had sold. After I got the tractor, the first job that I did was pick up some debris after having some stumps ground out. After that first use, I told myself that it was worth every penny and that I wouldn't want another tractor without one! Then I went and picked up some logs for the neighbor and moved them....didn't have to get off the tractor!

 

[JAMESFNP]

Ahvatsa,

I agree with what Z-Michigan has stated. I have R4's on the TC45DA, and will order the 4720 with them as well. For my uses, they are perfect. I mow when its dry, and for stobs and thorns they can not be beat. However, if traction and working in mud was a concern for me, I'd get the R1's.

Cant give you any info on the 4-n-1. My tractor has not been ordered yet. I keep adding things. Actually, I have another Deere dealer coming today to look at the TC45DA. I just didn't want to take what the other dealer was offering me for it unless I had too. We'll know tommorrow or the next which dealer gets our business.

Proglassco,

I read that here on TBN about your tractor having a new engine installed. I hope that they get it in and fixed quickly for you. I hope that this is an isolated failure, and not something that we'll be reading about often here.

 

[proglassco]

....and I hope it is an isolated problem....just wish it wasn't happening to me. I really love the tractor, and it has done everything I have asked it to with ease. I, as well as several others, was very suprised that Deere had factory shipped a new motor in that short amount of time. As a friend of mine was telling me about his father's Deere having a problem a few years ago...they ended up having to put a new motor in it as well......and they had it back to him in no time....he was really impressed in the quick response and they way that he was treated. The dealer told him, "That's why you buy a Deere." It actually makes it feel like someone cares!

 

[JAMESFNP]

....and I hope it is an isolated problem....just wish it wasn't happening to me. I really love the tractor, and it has done everything I have asked it to with ease. I, as well as several others, was very suprised that Deere had factory shipped a new motor in that short amount of time. As a friend of mine was telling me about his father's Deere having a problem a few years ago...they ended up having to put a new motor in it as well......and they had it back to him in no time....he was really impressed in the quick response and they way that he was treated. The dealer told him, "That's why you buy a Deere." It actually makes it feel like someone cares!

It sounds like your dealer and Deere are making it right. Sometimes things just happen. The sales manager came by and looked at the TC45DA today from the other dealership that is close. By close, I mean one's 50 miles and the other is 60 miles. Seems like a real nice guy. He said blue looked just like a new tractor. He couldn't get over it and would give me the best price he could. We'll see though. I've heard this before.

 

[Turkeyman]

I have a WR Long 72 " 4 in 1 and I use it like a dozer all the time. I have ballest in all 4 tires and and leave my 1600 lb mower on the back for more weight. You will lose traction before you loose power. I do most of my work in B Range and never at PTO speed. The R4's are not the best at traction but offer more support then stock R1's.

Install a belly pan if you work in the woods, too many hoses/pipes under the hydro otherwise.

 

[ahvatsa]

Z MICH
FWIW The dealer told me today he would NOT put a MX7 on a 4720. He insist it's too much! I was surprised. Looking at MX6 4-in-1 and a BB3272 that should all imatch. Saturday I am going to test Kub L5740 and 4720, both open, with wife. She will be on it quite a bit also. Right now the Kubota with Woods "Medium-Duty" 840 Brushbull and XB77 box is MORE than I ever thought! Kubota's TnT and a few xtras really add up. Frankly, I am ready to get this done. Barn should be ready in a couple weeks...if it stops raining.
al
edit: (Sorry if this is off topic here..."4720 cab"). both units with sealed and watered R4s.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

He said blue looked just like a new tractor. He couldn't get over it and would give me the best price he could. We'll see though. I've heard this before.

Have you heard back from them James? I'm guessing their offer was about $2-3K less than you thought it would be. You'll almost always be better off selling it yourself. Only you can decide what the hassle of selling something is worth to you. You have to remember, they want to make some money off your tractor too for having to process it thru the dealership. My dealer will sell on consignment for I think $500.

I almost traded up a couple of years ago, they offered me about $2K less than I wanted for my trade. I had to tell myself, they can get the same tractor new from JD for not much more (at their cost). Anyway, I thought the only way to get myself such a good deal was to buy the tractor I wanted slightly used from an individual.

 

[JAMESFNP]

Your right Kyle. The other Deere dealer offered me 15,000 for the TC45DA. I just laughed and told him I could not give it away. I think I'm just going to trade it in with the first Deere dealer. I have listed it in the paper and only had one call. Seems like the market around here is slow on used tractors.

 

[JAMESFNP]

Z MICH
FWIW The dealer told me today he would NOT put a MX7 on a 4720. He insist it's too much! I was surprised. Looking at MX6 4-in-1 and a BB3272 that should all imatch. Saturday I am going to test Kub L5740 and 4720, both open, with wife. She will be on it quite a bit also. Right now the Kubota with Woods "Medium-Duty" 840 Brushbull and XB77 box is MORE than I ever thought! Kubota's TnT and a few xtras really add up. Frankly, I am ready to get this done. Barn should be ready in a couple weeks...if it stops raining.
al
edit: (Sorry if this is off topic here..."4720 cab"). both units with sealed and watered R4s.

Several of the dealers I have visited have used MX7's on 4720's. Even the specs in the Deere brochures seem to agree with this.

 

[jerrynycom]

The third function will be controlled from the joystick. This option places the buttons on the joystick. It is a new offering from Deere. The salesperson I'm working with had to make several calls. Cost was $900.00 with a 67.00 discount. Hoses are still ran to the 3rd rear SCV.

I'll take pics when it gets here.

Do you have pics of the joystick? How about some JD model #'s....My salesman said that kind of joystick is only available on 110 models...Help me cause I am ordering my 4720 with 4N1 in the next week or so and REALLY want your joystick!!! Here is a pic of someones joystick on ebay...

I hate telling the salesman he is wrong, even after I send him these pics?!?!

 

[jerrynycom]

James,

I have a 4720 (if you search my other 2 posts, you will see that my baby is having a new motor installed), and I got the 400cx loader with the 4 in 1. It was the first one of these buckets that my dealer had sold. After I got the tractor, the first job that I did was pick up some debris after having some stumps ground out. After that first use, I told myself that it was worth every penny and that I wouldn't want another tractor without one! Then I went and picked up some logs for the neighbor and moved them....didn't have to get off the tractor!

How do you control the 4N1? Buttons on joystick or 3dr lever? Pics please? Need help.....

 

[jerrynycom]

Any ideas?.?.?

 

[jerrynycom]

The third function will be controlled from the joystick. This option places the buttons on the joystick. It is a new offering from Deere. The salesperson I'm working with had to make several calls. Cost was $900.00 with a 67.00 discount. Hoses are still ran to the 3rd rear SCV.

I'll take pics when it gets here.

Can I have my salesman call your salesman? Mine cant find from Deere the joystick with the third function to control the 4n1.....Going nuts!