New considering custom bailing

[Robert_in_NY]

I know a DOT number is required and M/C isn't required. The vehicle can and will be farm tagged under what duffster looked up
Farm vehicle driver means a person who drives only a commercial motor vehicle that is
(a) Controlled and operated by a farmer as a private motor carrier of property;
(b) Being used to transport either
(1) Agricultural products, or
(2) Farm machinery, farm supplies, or both, to or from a farm;
(c) Not being used in the operation of a for-hire motor carrier;
(d) Not carrying hazardous materials of a type or quantity that requires the commercial motor
vehicle to be placarded in accordance with ｧ177.823 of this subtitle; and
(e) Being used within 150 air miles of the farmer's farm.

I am thinking that is if your working your own farm/farms. If your working on someone elses farm as a custom operator then you are no longer a farmer, your a private contractor and thus a commercial operation. You can disagree all you want but the only way you will know for sure you are doing it right is to contact the people in charge and ask them yourself. Then they will tell you if you need to worry or not.

Good luck.

 

[Duffster]

I know a DOT number is required and M/C isn't required. The vehicle can and will be farm tagged under what duffster looked up
Farm vehicle driver means a person who drives only a commercial motor vehicle that is
(a) Controlled and operated by a farmer as a private motor carrier of property;
(b) Being used to transport either
(1) Agricultural products, or
(2) Farm machinery, farm supplies, or both, to or from a farm;
(c) Not being used in the operation of a for-hire motor carrier;
(d) Not carrying hazardous materials of a type or quantity that requires the commercial motor
vehicle to be placarded in accordance with ｧ177.823 of this subtitle; and
(e) Being used within 150 air miles of the farmer's farm.

I think you forgot "(a)".

I am thinking that is if your working your own farm/farms. If your working on someone elses farm as a custom operator then you are no longer a farmer, your a private contractor and thus a commercial operation. You can disagree all you want but the only way you will know for sure you are doing it right is to contact the people in charge and ask them yourself. Then they will tell you if you need to worry or not.

Good luck.

How does the old saying go? "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."

 

[Cline bailing]

It would be private motor carrier I'm not hauling for anyone else just myself. So far you have failed to prove your point but helped me prove mine.

 

[Duffster]

Like I said, Good Luck.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

It would be private motor carrier I'm not hauling for anyone else just myself. So far you have failed to prove your point but helped me prove mine.

You would be hauling for yourself but for commercial reasons, not farm reasons

 

[Cline bailing]

You can say what you want in Oklahoma thats how everyone does it. I still wonder how people can't even stay on the subject what size hay bales are people buying I know I like 5x5 but I've heard a lot ore going to 4x6?

Thanks sweettractors and Bird for your info.
Thank you Schmism for giving me something to think about.

I will probably do a 4ft with adjustable chamber baler if anyone has a size suggestion please give it to me. THANK YOU.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

You can say what you want in Oklahoma thats how everyone does it. I still wonder how people can't even stay on the subject what size hay bales are people buying I know I like 5x5 but I've heard a lot ore going to 4x6?

Thanks sweettractors and Bird for your info.
Thank you Schmism for giving me something to think about.

I will probably do a 4ft with adjustable chamber baler if anyone has a size suggestion please give it to me. THANK YOU.

Why don't you talk to your prospective customers and get their input. It does no good for anyone else to tell you what they use if the people in your area want something different. Have you talked to any prospective customers yet?

In my area no one really wants round bales except for small farms with cows. All the horse farms want small squares and large dairy farms do large squares. Round bales are not too common and all the custom baling guys do large squares, don't know of anyone that does small squares except for me but I don't do much custom baling for anyone but the people I know well.

 

[jenkinsph]

Why don't you talk to your prospective customers and get their input. It does no good for anyone else to tell you what they use if the people in your area want something different. Have you talked to any prospective customers yet?

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I agree, better to make decisions based on the locals you will be dealing with. Find out what their preferences are, it is much easier to sell them what they wan't.

Transporting hay is where you will have 95% of the regulations to deal with and this part of your operation will be the most competitively priced. With a limited budget you may be better off letting someone else deal with this part and focus on what you need to do the haying work and moving your equipment.

 

[sweettractors]

Here in Ky, the custom balers offer net wrap and not wrapped. If a farmer has inside storage facilities, he would probably like to save a couple $ per bale to have non wrapped bales made. Just a thought. Ken Sweet

 

[Bird]

The hay baling I did was all with twine, and some experimenting proved that some brands and types of twine was much better than others. The guy I was working with later said he wished he'd had the baler equipped for wrap instead. It was a Gehl baler. Our other friend in the hay business had all John Deere equipment and only used the wrap, no twine. And back then, they said it cost about a dollar a bale more to do the wrap instead of the twine. Is that still the case?