New Delivery :)

[clarkie]

herdfan,

don't worry about the detour, my new delivery is old news now.

can't help you on the dump truck though ... biggest truck i have ever had is 3/4 ton pickup. you might try a new post of your own, either here or perhaps "attachments"

happy searching /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

clarkie

 

[BarryinMN]

I have a '93 1 ton C3500 diesel. 4 yard contractors box (sides fold down) Note: here in MN anything over 10K gvw truck require a DOT physical health card (same as CDL) and DOT safety inspection $50/vehicle/yr. and USDOT # on side doors of truck. If you can get past the govt hassle towing with a duallie has outstanding stability & 14MPG in my case.

 

[wallace]

Cub Cadet does not make the kioti dk40/45
Kioti make the 40 and 45hp. Cub

 

[herdfan]

clarkie - a sweet setup like that will never get old! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[herdfan]

Barry
Here in WV you need a CDL for 26K and up. Lots of trucks advertise as not needing a CDL, but then you have to drive it around with a half ton of gravel in the bed /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I looked at a ton of 1 ton trucks (pun intended) and am going to check out a 1 1/2 ton F-600 this AM.
Will likely go with 2WD. 4WD are too hard to find and expensive!
Eric

 

[lamarbur]

I see a ton of adds by used dealers in the weekly truck trader. Adds claim 25,999 lbs, beat the CDL , then they procede to list trukc, such and such engine, air brakes.. Bingo, right there, (air brakes) is automatically CDL requirement.. A lot of people over look those Asian designed small cabover engine trucks with 10 ft dump beds. Usually 4 cyl diesel, auto/5sp trans, hydraulic brakes and anywhere from 8 to 10 ft landscaper dump bodies. These used Isuzu and other brands can fill most the needs of a small/weekend farmer..

 

[BarryinMN]

Yep saw a Chevrolet badged truck at auction last week with new box 170K mi. Did not stick around to know what it sold at. In MN over 10K GVW requires a DOT health card. Fine is $700 without one. Physical is $70. Interesting multiplier. Another thing to watch is a 25,600 GVW truck if you attach a trailer instantly puts you into a CDL requirement with log books & everything else...

 

[herdfan]

Thanks for the info on the dump truck situation.
I just bought a 1 1/2 ton dump which runs good but need some major cosmetic "surgery" - Dump thread

That CDL business is too much for me to worry with. Gotta hand it to the government for helping us "little guys" get involved with a little red tape too, huh? I certainly think that the dealer advertising on those "under CDL" trucks is misleading at best.

Maybe Clarkie can get some more feedback on his new tractor now - sorry again for the "detour." Any more pics?

 

[Durbob]

I drive a freightliner fl 60 with a 25,500 gvw which is under CDL and it has air brakes on it. I've been thru DOT inspections and no one has ever said anything about the air brakes. I wonder why freightliner would even put air brakes on a non CDL truck? I can see on a Semi where you should have a CDL with air brakes because of the couplers used to attach to the trailer, maybe that's why they don't push it on box trucks.

 

[lamarbur]

we've had this discussion before somewhere on this board. In fact several, that are/were cops chimed in, the way the CDL is written and it is the same in every single state (basic) if it has air brakes, you need to take the air endorsement. In NEw England, you well had better at least a CDL(B).. I Know some states are allowing the air endorsement attached to a regular license.. Cross a few state lines with that FL60 and see how they do it.. In CT, I have a new Bri-Mar trailer rated at 12,000.. You know what? Have to have a CDL because its rated gross weight is ovber ten thousand.. I think some of this is really needed and other parts are negligible and not needed. My opinion only.. I was an owner operator pf tractor trailer untis for near 18 years. In that time frame, I've seen a lot of (they should take a truck road test to why bother, with others) Some people shouldn't pull a trailer no matter what,and others can do it with out a single problem.. Really ahrd to jsutify who can who can't and why..

 

[Chipperman]

lamarbur
I think if you check into it you will find if you are pulling your 12K trailer with a commercial truck (over 18000 GVW) and the combined weight is under 26000 you do not need a CDL. But if the truck is registered in a business name or you are using it for business purposes you do need to run a log. If you look at the back of your CT license you will see that it says a "Commercial" truck towing a trailer in excess of 10000 lbs.
Chipperman /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[herdfan]

This may be a dumb question, but would I have to stop at the weigh station with this 1 1/2 ton F-600? There's one just up from me on the interstate, and I can easily bypass it if need be by using the parallel highway.
thanks
eric

 

[lamarbur]

when I went to register this trailer, I was told to go home and get it, bring it back for a DOT inspection (Enfield office), as it is 12,000 GVW. To me, it don't matter as I got my class one (old name for CDL A) in 1967.. A lot of this has to do with which registry person reads, and how that person interpretates what they read. I know a few carpenters in Sturbridge MA, just over the line, all who bought trailers to haul their tools. All, were required to get 10,000 GVW or under as none of them have a CDL or wish to get one. If you read DOT laws, up to January 8th of this year, any trailer over 10G;s or any pulling power with air brakes, you need a CDL for the trailer and a minimum of an air brake endorsement for the truck if not an outright CDL B class license.. I mention January 8th as this is the day the new regs came into effect. I have not read or kept up on these two month old, new regs, so I don't know if anything other than hours of service has changed.

 

[megotatractor]

we're talking Trucks on TBN? If your truck is for farm use no stinking CDL required.

 

[herdfan]

I ran into the friendly neighborhood DOT officer today at the gas station. She was actually pretty nice. Said that with the farm plates (X plate here in WV), it's like a free pass for the DOT. She said that they "shouldn't" stop you or weigh you as long as you have the farm plate. You just need to be sure that whatever you're hauling (even if it tops 26,000# here in WV) it's for your farm. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[BarryinMN]

Farm regs changed in Jan. 2003 was a grace period. If you cross state lines DOT # must be posted, safety inspected, for over 10K. Depending on how you answer inspector Q's you run the risk of red tag lockout, fines & have to get somebody else to move the vehicle(s). Private carrier definition is shrinking in scope. Farm tags also get you red dye fuel checked. I heard fines are $1K Fed & $2K state @ my last fuel delivery. Look at the MN State Patrol commercial applicability PDF file (new item.)

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/patrol/comveh/index.htm

 

[herdfan]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I heard fines are $1K Fed & $2K state @ my last fuel delivery. )</font>

Sounds pretty painful.
Even though I'm in a tri-state area, I'll likely only drive the truck in WV. I'll be sure and check with the DOT to make sure I'll be in compliance with KY and OH if I need to ever go across their lines.

BTW - what is "red dye fuel?" /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

eric

 

[Evasive1]

Red dye fuel is diesel that is for "off road use" and is not subject to tax (cheaper cost at the pump). The fuel is dyed red and if used in a vehicle will be detectable.

 

[herdfan]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Red dye fuel is diesel that is for "off road use" and is not subject to tax (cheaper cost at the pump). The fuel is dyed red and if used in a vehicle will be detectable. )</font>

Thanks - I learn something new every day!

I got the farm tag yesterday - the "X" plate.
It was pretty painless at the DMV.
The only problem in WV is that all X plates expire in July, so will have to renew it then. At least I didn't buy it in June /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Duane - That C-86 backhoe on my Century works great! I bought 36" and 15" buckets for it. I've mostly been using the 36" one for moving the mud from the slips. It took some getting used to as far as controlling the movement, but all those years of playing the Atari as a kid are finally paying off! It is sure nice to be able to do some major work around the farm without paying someone $100 and hour!

eric

 

[sassafraspete]

I hear ya herdfan. I have been on vacation this week...working nearly everyday with a backhoe on my 4020, and I am utterly amazed at what I can do with the combination of BH, and front loader with toothbar. I would recommend the BH highly. One of the reasons I bought the Branson, was that it was in a price range that I could also buy the BH. It has been fantastic. I don't have the larger bucket though...maybe someday down the line.

pete