New Driveway Construction

[deezler]

Wow, your road (that is a road, not just a little personal driveway) is looking great. Makes me feel like a real cheapskate for the skimpy drive I put in to my home site. But you know what? My crown is holding, the road is firm, and there's really no issues. Personally, I think your road is wayyyy overkill, but, it will last darn near forever. Congrats and good luck on the rest of your build!

P.S. the double-sided, super-stapled fabric repair really made me chuckle. I would have just laid the torn flap back down and smoothed out the rock..... whats going to happen, a massive sink hole? More likely, nothing. haha. Anyway, again, kick-*** road and thanks for sharing.

 

[farmer2009]

Sounds good, I'll give it a try. Sand is pretty cheap around here, just have to pay to haul it. Probably won't get it done right away because tomorrow is my last chance to work on it for a while and I have to get the seed/straw down. The driveway will have very little traffic on it until late spring anyway, so I've got some time.

When I think of sand, I am thinking sandstone sand. But what I think of the suggestion is to use the fines from the same material as the rock. I believe that's the sand he was referring to.

Just dumping on sand I'd be hesitant of. Sand doesn't pack well especially when dry.

 

[vtsnowedin]

When I think of sand, I am thinking sandstone sand. But what I think of the suggestion is to use the fines from the same material as the rock. I believe that's the sand he was referring to.

Just dumping on sand I'd be hesitant of. Sand doesn't pack well especially when dry.

No !!! to me sand is the portion that passes through a quarter inch screen. and "clean sand" has been washed so that no more then five percent of it will pass a number 200 screen.
The dust that comes with a crushed rock product is more then 50 percent passing the number 200 and turns to slimy mud when wet. It needs to be screened out and replaced by coarse clean sand.

 

[farmer2009]

No !!! to me sand is the portion that passes through a quarter inch screen. and "clean sand" has been washed so that no more then five percent of it will pass a number 200 screen. The dust that comes with a crushed rock product is more then 50 percent passing the number 200 and turns to slimy mud when wet. It needs to be screened out and replaced by coarse clean sand.

I believe your recommendation of sand with your definition of sand would be a good idea. All I was trying to do was make sure everyone understood the definition.

Here if you called and ordered sand. You'd get toy box sand. Regional definition difference.

 

[FF117]

No !!! to me sand is the portion that passes through a quarter inch screen. and "clean sand" has been washed so that no more then five percent of it will pass a number 200 screen.
The dust that comes with a crushed rock product is more then 50 percent passing the number 200 and turns to slimy mud when wet. It needs to be screened out and replaced by coarse clean sand.

Ok, that makes more sense to me. "Sand" here is for a beach or sandbox. Didn't seem to make sense until you explained it. I'll have to see what the quarry here sells. Not even sure I can get what you described. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Ok, that makes more sense to me. "Sand" here is for a beach or sandbox. Didn't seem to make sense until you explained it. I'll have to see what the quarry here sells. Not even sure I can get what you described. Thanks for clearing it up.

What the local concrete plant uses for the sand portion of their mixes is perfect. And yes they will deliver it in a concrete truck for a price. I had a contractor buy a load today to fill one yard sand bags.

 

[FF117]

Got the seeding done today. Ran out of straw and couldn't find any on short notice, so I just used some old hay. I seeded everything, but only used the hay/straw on the ditches and the more erosion prone areas. Spreading the hay is very time consuming because it likes to clump. It was also windy today which made the process much more difficult. The last little bit of rain we got really firmed up the surface of the driveway. It's tough to break the surface with a shovel in most places. The first pic is one of the firm areas. There are a few spots where the fines weren't mixed in well and those areas are a little loose on top. I'll check with a concrete company on the "sand", thanks for the tip.

 

[FF117]

Wow, your road (that is a road, not just a little personal driveway) is looking great. Makes me feel like a real cheapskate for the skimpy drive I put in to my home site. But you know what? My crown is holding, the road is firm, and there's really no issues. Personally, I think your road is wayyyy overkill, but, it will last darn near forever. Congrats and good luck on the rest of your build!

P.S. the double-sided, super-stapled fabric repair really made me chuckle. I would have just laid the torn flap back down and smoothed out the rock..... whats going to happen, a massive sink hole? More likely, nothing. haha. Anyway, again, kick-*** road and thanks for sharing.

Yeah, guess I'm a little OCD. Figure that I only get one shot at this and I'd kick myself later if I cut corners. Just hope it holds up to construction traffic.

 

[FF117]

The cost for 900' of completed driveway (prices include shipping and tax):

360 tons CM6D - $5060
15 tons 3" clean - $220
3 rolls of 200lb geotextile (432 ft per roll) - $1070
Fuel (approximate) - $170
Seed & straw - $160
200' silt fence - $63
Staples - $30
10" culvert pipe - $102
2 days compactor rental - $442
Tractor repair - $1200

Total - $8517

I included the tractor repair, but I feel that it might have broke at some point anyway, just a matter of time. It took about 70 engine hours on the tractor and maybe another 20-30 hours of manual labor.

 

[Got2BTru]

Interesting #'s. I still have the "final" layer of stone (crusher run), but I paid to have mine done. It was dug down to the clay, geotextile laid and then a bony layer about 12"-14" laid down. It's about the same height, if not a BIT taller than the surrounding soil. 1300 feet for me cost $11,000.

I couldn't have done it myself, so kudos to you!