New Ford F150

[fordmantpw]

I have seen that video before. There is a lot of technology giving the newer vehicle the upper hand. I agree with the kinetic energy a heavy vehicle has to absorb when hitting a fixed object. I would rather be in the heavier vehicle when two vehicles are involved. Moral of the story, don't hit anything but if you do, make sure it is movable.

Since the current model f150 is one of the safest vehicles on the road, I am pretty certain ford would want to maintain that honor. Poor crash tests hurt sales.

Agreed, all the way around!

 

[aczlan]

Secure 700 lbs of concrete into the bed. Problem solved.

That's on my list of things to do for our RTV500 this summer. It has enough power to move a loaded haywagon around, but it doesn't have quite enough weight to have enough traction for my taste. Planning on sides and a concrete block that will sit inside them

Aaron Z

 

[daugen]

Secure 700 lbs of concrete into the bed. Problem solved.

hmmm, add weight when you need it, leave it off when you don't.
Like adding water to the hull of a wakeboard boat...
but I want all my fuel economy, and more...

 

[ecamD]

You don't like Ford we get it. Why bother posting on a Ford thread. It's obvious you are completely clueless.

Oh, and that $5.9B on your avatar was a LOAN that Ford paid back WITH INTEREST. Get your facts straight troll.

I don't hate Ford, I buy whats best when I'm shopping. Although Fords have left me stranded where Dodge and GM haven't yet...

And show me the report of Ford paying it back! Get YOUR facts straight!

 

[Code54]

That's one of my concerns as well, and one of the reasons I tow with a 3/4 ton Super Duty even though a 1/2 ton has the towing capacity.

I have to agree. I run a ¾ ton diesel just because it tows a little better. In my case, I much rather fork out a few hundred dollars in fuel each year for the extra safety the extra size of the truck affords. I do think it is great Ford is trying something different and hope it makes all manufactures up their game a bit. I am personally not real big on small engines in trucks but if it works and other don't mind I think it is great to have more choices.

 

[ecamD]

I guess it all depends on what one expects in a model change.

Yeah it would be nice to see coil suspension but only if they can maintain their great payload capacities. That is likely what neutered the Ram. Hopefully the weight loss will benefit the payload even more. If the new frame is as strong as the current, payload numbers could be crazy high with the 700 lb weight loss.

I consider an entirely new 2.7 ecoboost with start stop to be more than a "minor change in ecoboost". Yes it probably won't be achieving 30 MPG but I would predict it being mid 20's which would make it cheaper to operate than a small diesel getting 30.

I haven't heard of the Raptor being dropped. If so it would just be for a short period I would guess, not that I would consider one anyway. If it stays, hopefully they will finally put the 3.5 ecoboost in rather than the boat anchor 6.2 so it can fly.

The medium block 6.2 wasn't a big seller due to the success of the 3.5 ecoboost.

It's not the coil springs that cause the low payload, it's that low GVWR they put on their trucks. The 2500's got coil springs and its payload beats the leaf spring F150. It will be nice to see the new specs of the F150 but most dont need a 1/2 ton truck that can haul 4000 lbs in the bed.
The 2.7 Ecoboost is NOT what I meant by minor change obviously. It was in relation to the 3.5l which so far sounds unchanged. Dropping 700lbs in a 5500 lb truck is not going to gain much.

I like the Ecoboost 3.5l but feel it should perform MUCH better than the other old age V8's when in fact it matches the performance yet returns slightly better fuel mileage. Although those that tow often are reporting rpthe same overall as the V8's.

 

[fordmantpw]

I don't hate Ford, I buy whats best when I'm shopping. Although Fords have left me stranded where Dodge and GM haven't yet...

And show me the report of Ford paying it back! Get YOUR facts straight!

Well, the loans were available to everyone, not just Ford (Nissan, Tesla, et el). Maybe they haven't paid it back in full yet, but they ARE paying them back, with interest! Since the original statement is yours, where's the proof it hasn't been paid back. And where's the proof that's a bad thing. It's a LOAN!

Ford Gets $5.9 Billion Government Loan | Fox News

 

[fordmantpw]

It's not the coil springs that cause the low payload, it's that low GVWR they put on their trucks. The 2500's got coil springs and its payload beats the leaf spring F150. It will be nice to see the new specs of the F150 but most dont need a 1/2 ton truck that can haul 4000 lbs in the bed.
The 2.7 Ecoboost is NOT what I meant by minor change obviously. It was in relation to the 3.5l which so far sounds unchanged. Dropping 700lbs in a 5500 lb truck is not going to gain much.

I like the Ecoboost 3.5l but feel it should perform MUCH better than the other old age V8's when in fact it matches the performance yet returns slightly better fuel mileage. Although those that tow often are reporting rpthe same overall as the V8's.

Well, I would hope the 2500's coils can beat the F150's payload. The 2500 is a class above the 150. And if you don't think a 12-13% weight loss is going to make any difference, I think you will be surprised. I've heard to expect a 3 MPG improvement for the same engines in the '15 vs. the '14.

 

[ecamD]

Well, I would hope the 2500's coils can beat the F150's payload. The 2500 is a class above the 150.

Point being its not the coils that make the Ram 1500 have a low payload. It was stated that coil springs "neutered the RAM's payload".

 

[ecamD]

Well, the loans were available to everyone, not just Ford (Nissan, Tesla, et el). Maybe they haven't paid it back in full yet, but they ARE paying them back, with interest! Since the original statement is yours, where's the proof it hasn't been paid back. And where's the proof that's a bad thing. It's a LOAN!

Ford Gets $5.9 Billion Government Loan | Fox News

See my link above, it clearly states Ford has NOT even begun to pay it back even with record profits...