new Kubota operating Question

[4t9ers]

Hello, I got my new B2920 today. I was told be the delivery guy that I should always have the rear cutter on with the loader because it will balance the tractor out. I found tonight it makes it tough to get into tight places with the cutter on. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Jim

 

[General Lee]

Are your rear tires loaded with liquid of some type? If so, you can do light tasks without the cutter on. The cutter will be bulky swinging around off the rear while you do other tasks. Its not a neccesity to always be on. If your doing heavy FEL work, digging, etc your tractor will operate better with weight on the rear, be safer, and feel more stable.

 

[PHILIP8N]

If I am doing anything other than very light FEL work, I like to have some kind of heavy weight on my 3 point. One option is a mower, they are heavy, but as you have noticed, they are big. Another option I use is a pulverizer, this is heavy, but not very large. Of course a grader box or blade is good, not always that heavy, but if I have the FEL on, I am usually doing some grading also. Best option to maximize 3 point wieght is a ballast box, either purchased or home made. The Grand L series box is 1000 pounds with dry sand. Philip.

 

[bp fick]

I don't intend to put money toward a ballast box. I'd rather it go toward something useful. People like box blades. They don't project like a mower, aren't as wide, yet provide some substantial counter weight. I have an RFM and cannot imagine using it for FEL work. I have a 3 pt bar hitch, on which I can put a few hundred pounds of old work out weights. That is only so much help.

Only weight on your 3 pt will lever FEL weight off the front axle, to save wear and tear. Wheel weights or loading tires cannot do that.

 

[RTII]

For FEL work I have my box blade on the 3 pt. Less bulk than the mower. Suuficient for my (balance) needs. It's a very usefull tool when needed as well and not too expensive - $325 new. I've definitely got my money's worth out of it.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

Can't say enough for loading the tires...Keeps the 3 point free for use... skidding logs and then handleing with the bucket/grapple etc....

 

[TripleR]

Like General Lee, I have done lite and even not so lite loader work with just loaded tires, but recommend added weight of some type, BB etc. when doing anything other than lite work as it makes it easier and safer.

 

[MarkV]

It is pretty easy to make a counter weight inexpensively. A plastic garbage can, a draw bar inserted through it, eye bolts for a top link hook-up and readi mix cement. A search on the forum will show some innovative modifications like tool holders and receiver hitches added to the weight.

MarkV

 

[Grandad4]

There are other implements that don't project out back so far, as others have said. If you continue to use the mower for counterweight for a while, be careful about climbing a dirt pile, etc. with it. Because it sticks out a long ways, you can bind up the top link and do some damage if you aren't careful.

 

[k0ua]

I built a counterweight, 55 gal drum $9. tractor supply drawbar $26. reciever hitch $9 (just because I wanted one) concrete about $30. The steel 4inch angle iron and the rebar was scrap lying around, if you had to buy it, probably about 20 bucks. Of course I have a welder. but as you can see you can build one pretty cheap. mine was a total of about 750 Lbs when finished
James K0UA

 

[rjkobbeman]

I have weights on my wheels, and will use my ballast box when it comes in. Call me crazy, but I just don't like the idea of putting liquid in my tires (or tubes). I know people have been loading their tires for ages, but don't bother trying to convince me... I'm not changing my mind. Wheel weights and ballast (box or implement) hanging on the 3ph is the way for me.

 

[4t9ers]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

 

[bp fick]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

Jim, I am a wheel weight guy myself, rather than filling, but nonetheless, all these dealers fill the tires for their customers, so I think you got a big tube of baloney packaged in your sale from that dealer. :laughing::laughing:

 

[rjkobbeman]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

My owners manual has a section on how to fill your tires with calcium. It says how high to fill them, etc.

 

[LBrown59]

Hello, I got my new B2920 today. I was told be the delivery guy that I should always have the rear cutter on with the loader because it will balance the tractor out. I found tonight it makes it tough to get into tight places with the cutter on. Any thoughts?

Thanks
Jim

you should counter balance the light end with extra weight of some type .

 

[KubieTwo]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

When I have bought new tractors the dealer has always asked if I wanted loaded tires. I would be worried if I had bought a tractor from somebody who made a statement that putting anything in the tires would void the warranty. Wonder what else voids "his" warranty?

 

[KubieTwo]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

When I have bought new tractors the dealer has always asked if I wanted loaded tires. I would be worried if I had bought a tractor from somebody who made a statement that putting anything in the tires would void the warranty. Wonder what else voids "his" warranty?

 

[MarkV]

I was warned by the tractor store to not but anything in the tires because it would void the warranty.

Jim

Jim I think whomever you were talking with is misinformed. Kubota actually says in the owners manual, at least on both of mine, to fill the tires except on tractor/loader/backhoe (TLB's) models and cab models. To me it is about the cheapest and most beneficial modification you can make to get the most out of the tractors capabilities.

MarkV

 

[rScotty]

Hello, I got my new B2920 today. I was told be the delivery guy that I should always have the rear cutter on with the loader because it will balance the tractor out. I found tonight it makes it tough to get into tight places with the cutter on. Any thoughts?Thanks
Jim

The problem with the delivery guy's advoce is the word "always". Yes, anything on the three point will help counter the weight of the loader and load, but it won't hurt the tractor to do work without the counterbalance. Just be careful with the balance so you don't overturn. Weighting the rear tires helps prevent overturning, but doesn't actually provide a counterbalance - for that you need weight behind the axle. I like a 4' box blade. It is small, handy, and can be made heavy with added weight. Mine has a flat piece of heavy plywood that sits on top of the box for a workbench, some wire baskets wired to the upper link connection to carry tools, and places to place some addtional chunks of concrete and steel back there for when more counter weight is helpful.
rScotty

 

[MarkV]

The problem with the delivery guy's advoce is the word "always". Yes, anything on the three point will help counter the weight of the loader and load, but it won't hurt the tractor to do work without the counterbalance. Just be careful with the balance so you don't overturn. Weighting the rear tires helps prevent overturning, but doesn't actually provide a counterbalance - for that you need weight behind the axle. I like a 4' box blade. It is small, handy, and can be made heavy with added weight. Mine has a flat piece of heavy plywood that sits on top of the box for a workbench, some wire baskets wired to the upper link connection to carry tools, and places to place some addtional chunks of concrete and steel back there for when more counter weight is helpful.
rScotty

Scotty I would have to disagree a bit with you. Loading or adding wheel weights to the rears does help remove weight/stress from the front axle when doing loader work in my opinion. You can lift the rear of a tractor, even with loaded tires, doing loader work and all that weight ends up on the front axle assembly. It would be even worst without the added weight in the rears. Personally I never do loader work without something attached to the 3pt even with loaded tires.

I do agree with you that loaded tires make a tremendous amount of difference with stability, traction and safety. Thats what got me about the sales person saying that loading the tires would void the warranty. There have been dealers on the forum who have said they will not send out a tractor with a loader without loading the rear tires.

MarkV