New, larger tractor

[Trillium Farm]

HST is particularly adept when tractor direction and speed changes often, ie: Loader work.
Also particularly useful on hills, where HST applies automatic engine braking.
In field work long pulls in one direction, at one speed, in big fields are the norm. No/few hills in field work.
Gear tractors are about 5% to 7% more fuel efficient than HST tractors. When using a tractor 300 to 400 hours per year in ground engagement field work, when fuel use may be 2-3-4 gallons per hour, fuel economy becomes important to profitability.
Gear transmissions generate significantly less heat than HST transmissions.

Let me jump in here HST is NOT an agricultural transmission an IVT or CVT is, the two are not the same the 1st is mainly used on riding lawnmower and some tractors that do FEL work, but not above a certain amount of hp, the IVT instead is used on tractors that work the the field and as far as I know there is no hp limitation. This tranny also works best with all the electronics and electronic guidances they are loading those tractors with.

 

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JEFFY,

NO HILLS IN FIELD WORK, Demonstrates a complete DISCONNECT w/ the real world. The ground may be FLAT in Florida, YET the rest of us deal w/ plenty of hilly ground in field work !!

I understand you two are in a war of sorts (it's almost amusing viewed from here), but I think you actually jumped the gun here.

Jeff is actually stating (my edits in bold):

(edit - this part of his post is pro-HST, obviously)
HST is particularly adept when tractor direction and speed changes often, ie: Loader work.

Also particularly useful on hills, where HST applies automatic engine braking.



(edit - note the large space gap. he's doing pros & cons, and has now switched. Consider this part the "con-HST/pro-GEAR part)

In field work long pulls in one direction, at one speed, in big fields are the norm. No/few hills in field work.

Gear tractors are about 5% to 7% more fuel efficient than HST tractors. When using a tractor 300 to 400 hours per year in ground engagement field work, when fuel use may be 2-3-4 gallons per hour, fuel economy becomes important to profitability.

Gear transmissions generate significantly less heat than HST transmissions.

I'll warrant that he didn't specifically call out the pro/con nature of it but if you weren't quite so fast to jump on everything he writes I think 5 seconds of critical reading would've figured this out.
Disclaimer - I'm a tractor newb but I can't comment on the HST vs not-HST nature of things as I've never driven a non-HST tractor and I don't plow fields etc.

 

[jeff9366]

I understand you two are in a war of sorts (it's almost amusing viewed from here), but I think you actually jumped the gun here.

I am not in a war of words with ANYONE.

MajorWager has been on my T-B-N IGNORE LIST for some time. I do not see anything MajorWager writes unless someone quotes him, or someone sends me a Private Message concerning MajorWager's bile.

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