New Mahindra Trucks

   / New Mahindra Trucks #61  
Hopefully, they're going to offer stripped down versions. Rubber mats and a manual tranny. I dont know how much i trust Indian automatics and electronics just yet.

Im not interested in a full load boulevard cruiser, just a plane jane compact truck, for a lower price than the current offerings.

IMHO trying to compete with the big boys, with a full load ,"deluxe" truck, when your a relative unknown to the general public isnt a wise strategy. Coming in and really undercutting them on price makes more sense to me.
They buy licence from whomever has the technology they need. I think they know that they could do irreparable damage to their reputation if they fail to control quality for US market. Remember Yugo. Nobody would buy anything named Yugo today even if the quality would be good.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #62  
Personally, I wish they would put the old 1945 jeep back in production for the work animal only with a diesel. Would be cheaper than some ATV's and be able to handle the chores. I would think off road enthusiasts would gobble them up.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #63  
I think they know that they could do irreparable damage to their reputation if they fail to control quality for US market. Remember Yugo. Nobody would buy anything named Yugo today even if the quality would be good.

Thats another reason i hope they keep it simple. At least a simple truck makes the chances less for another yugo.

rdbrumfield:
Jeep is currently producing a pretty awesome truck with the diesel, they just dont sell it here in their "wisdom"

Check out the specs, heavy running gear and diesel power. I know id look at it if they sold it here but i guess it doesnt fit jeeps current image or something. Any emissions issues could be overcome. And they wonder why Jeep is failing?

Jeep J8: Taking The Wrangler Unlimited To Boot Camp, Bringing Back A Brute Of A Pickup
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #64  
Personally, I wish they would put the old 1945 jeep back in production for the work animal only with a diesel. Would be cheaper than some ATV's and be able to handle the chores. I would think off road enthusiasts would gobble them up.

All US automakers make diesels for foreign markets. One of the problems is our pollution standard. Europe measures pollution per kilometer driven and then imposes taxes based the volume of controlled substances found in the exhaust. Such system gives incentive to small cars but penalizes big vehicles regardless of cleanliness of their exhaust. Cars with high mileage will always beat even super clean large vehicle. US auto industry lobbied, for obvious reason, for the standard based on percentage of harmful fumes in the exhaust. This is where we are today. They have the engines but can't use them in the US until they make them cleaner.
If I have the choice I would drive diesel cars. I rented several of them in Europe and found them much more pleasant to drive than gasoline cars. Especially the stick shift.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #65  
Coming in and really undercutting them on price makes more sense to me.

Certainly makes me more willing to try them.

From the DFW ad
2 Door Truck - This no frills work horse is a stallion, a well equipped truck that spoils the workers that drive it. Rugged, luxurious, and dependable; not qualities you usually find in a Pick-up. It will make short work of most dirty jobs with out breaking a sweat.
I don't WANT to spoil the workers that drive it!!
I had a Toyota truck in high school, must have been about a 1975 or so.
Bare metal all over, thin doors, couldn't get much above 60mph, CHINTZY interior, noisy as heck and dependable as could be.
We could load it down like a 3/4 ton and drive it like a tractor.
Hose out the interior floor when it got muddy, which was often.
Rugged and dependable I want, the heck with luxury items like a/c, sound, comfortable seats.
I want to get the job done, clean up, then move to luxury.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #66  
From the DFW ad
I don't WANT to spoil the workers that drive it!!
I had a Toyota truck in high school, must have been about a 1975 or so.
Bare metal all over, thin doors, couldn't get much above 60mph, CHINTZY interior, noisy as heck and dependable as could be.
We could load it down like a 3/4 ton and drive it like a tractor.
Hose out the interior floor when it got muddy, which was often.
Rugged and dependable I want, the heck with luxury items like a/c, sound, comfortable seats.
I want to get the job done, clean up, then move to luxury.

They still make them but only for Africa.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #67  
Two comments:
<snip>One of the problems is our pollution standard. Europe measures pollution per kilometer driven and then imposes taxes based the volume of controlled substances found in the exhaust.<snip>
I agree it should be on the amount polluted versus the work done.
If I have the choice I would drive diesel cars. I rented several of them in Europe and found them much more pleasant to drive than gasoline cars. Especially the stick shift.
You do - right now it's limited, but soon Subaru and Honda should be introducing passenger cars. Of course right now there are a variety of trucks.
My 40mpg diesel ride taken while hunting land in Mississippi, hence the orange cap :) :
 

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   / New Mahindra Trucks #68  
Two comments:

I agree it should be on the amount polluted versus the work done.

You do - right now it's limited, but soon Subaru and Honda should be introducing passenger cars. Of course right now there are a variety of trucks.
My 40mpg diesel ride taken while hunting land in Mississippi, hence the orange cap :) :
I have never bought new car in my life. So I will have to wait few years (unless other economic pressures would dictate otherwise) for used one. Diesel in passenger car is way to go.
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #69  
You do - right now it's limited, but soon Subaru and Honda should be introducing passenger cars.

Over here in Europe, except the exotic sports cars, there is a limited number of brands that DONT offer Diesel:

Porsche
Subaru (untill recently)
Daihatsu
Dacia (Rumanian Renault)

Thats all i can come up with.

Toyota, VW, Mercedes, BMW, Volvo sell great Diesels. I'm not too fond of the Ford/PSA diesels used in Ford, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, Peugeot, Citroen because they seem to have very expensive common rail system failures, and they rattle. So my next car will either be another 850, an early V70 (facelifted 850) with the trusty Volkswagen 2.5 TDI inline 5, or a newer V70, S60 or S40 with the Volvo built D5 engine (also a 2.5 inline 5 diesel, 200hp, but based on the Volvo gasoline engine of the 850 series)
The smaller S40 range will be plenty of car for me, but i just dont want to go back to a high rpm 90 or 102 hp 4 cylinder diesel of French origin, after getting spoiled with the smooth torque of the 2.5 TDI at 140 hp.
This engine did well in the 440, but that car was 300kg lighter than its successor the S40, and 400kg lighter than my current 850
 
   / New Mahindra Trucks #70  
I have never bought new car in my life. So I will have to wait few years (unless other economic pressures would dictate otherwise) for used one. Diesel in passenger car is way to go.
Actually now is a good time to buy a used VW diesel.
They stopped importing them in 2006.
By late 2008 a 2006 Jetts was going for the same prices as a difficult to get 2009. All other years followed. Many peeps were selling 2006's or 2005's for about what they paid for them new.
Then with the large differential that occurred between the price of RUG and the price of ULSD (sometimes RUG was $1.50/gal and ULSD > $2.50 in the same place) the bottom fell out of the used VW diesel market, and has yet to recover.
Most of the older ( pre '09) Jetta's and Golf's can get 40 to 50 mpg with no trouble.

Now what I wonder - has anyone seen the troopers ever check a car to see if it's burning red diesel?
 

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