New member wanting advice on Yanmar tractors.

[CreativeGuy]

Hello, I am looking at a Used 1989 Yanmar 220D 4WD but the front wheels are not engaging. The owner says that the rear differential locks as it should and everything else works as it should. Just wondering for $3900 (with loader, Auger and rake) I am risking a huge repair bill to get the 4wd working.

 

[kenmac]

It could be anything from steel balls in the drive shaft to busted gears in the front end...
I would buy it as if the front end can't be repaired..as in you are buying a rear wheel drive tractor

 

[California]

That's a good price for a 2wd with those accessories.

Like Kenmac said getting the front axle back in service is simply a gamble, but the asking price is discounted to reflect that.

I would buy it if a 2wd version were sufficient for my application.

If you get lucky and can fix it at reasonable price - you did real good.

 

[CreativeGuy]

Thank You California & Kenmac for your input. This tractor has turf tires and I will be using it mostly to maintain a verry long gravel driveway. Part of which is fairly steep gravel. I'm just wondering if having it just 2WD will be sufficient. The price is certainly in my range.
Is there an advantage of Turf tires over Ag tires for use on gravel?

That's a good price for a 2wd with those accessories.

Like Kenmac said getting the front axle back in service is simply a gamble, but the asking price is discounted to reflect that.

I would buy it if a 2wd version were sufficient for my application.

If you get lucky and can fix it at reasonable price - you did real good.

 

[Scotty Dive]

I have turf tires and they are much less aggressive on the the turf over the AG's. I have great traction when needed. I do have them loaded (increase stability and reduces strain on the front axle) and have chains on the rears and keep them on all year long because there are some sloppy and hilly parts of my property that I need them on.

One thing I would like to add is that the 220 is a domestic Yanmar, there might be more opportunities to find parts especially used to fix that front end. If you lower the loader and pick up the front wheels off the ground you should be able to turn those wheels by hand and see if the gears are meshing. If it turns the axle shaft I would think thats a good sign and possibly an easy fix.

 

[careyo63]

FWIW I use a ym2000 2wd. and a box blade on my 600Ft. Dr. with org. rice patty rears. With crush and run. When I grade it I can/will stop my tractor dead easily. Not by lack of HP. which is the same as the 220 according to Tactor Data but Traction. And it's mostly level with only a hundred feet tops on an incline. I use a BB. also on the JD. 55Hp. 7FT.BB with AG,s. Compare it of the R.patty's I won't even consider removing them. The R.Patty rears are a little rough on my front yard using the FM. but that's only if it has rained recently. Here a pic. of it and you can see the tread of the RP's.

 

[kenmac]

Just my opinion.. AG is going to give you better traction even in gravel than the turf. The turf tread is going to be closer together causing the tire to more or less ride on top of the gravel, where the AG tread is wide & deep, causing the tread to dig into the surface below the gravel..
At least this has been my experence on my gravel drive

 

[Jtullis13]

I know a lot of you guys have put in your 2cents worth on Ag vs R3 & R4 tires, but I was wondering if there is an alternative wheel/rim that would have the right lug hole pattern for my 2210d? I've talked to Aaron at Hoye and the turf kit is something that I would like to get in the next year or so, but is very expensive. I have had great luck and Aaron has been great help too. But was wondering on an alternative wheel/rim. I believe the John Deere 750, 850 4x4 models have the appropriate bolt pattern and rim size for the front is there anything else for the front, and what about the back?? I found a pair that have the right size of tire but the bolt pattern is to big. I would like to mention that I know I need to have the right wheel & tire size to prevent issues with the 4x4. I have the numbers already. Just need advice on the wheels/rim. Anyone with some info?? Thanks again

 

[California]

The only thing I can add here is the parts manuals for various models sometimes show different ring/pinion sets, ie different gear ratios, matched to different OEM tire configuratons. So a tire set from a different tractor might not have the front/rear size ratio you need.

You should be ok if you match the ratio of measured circumferences to what you have now.

 

[Jtullis13]

Yep got that covered California. I appreciate the info. I'm just curious on rim options that will bolt up to my axles. Also I would like to add that I appreciate everyone's help and input on TBN too. I have read some other threads where some people got kind of _____y with members and I'm glad that hasn't happened to me.

 

[kenmac]

years ago,, people were talking about a company that made wheels at a reasonable cost...Some may have even had wheels made by the company...I believe the company was Hey Wheel ? I have no idea of the cost ,or if they are still in business

 

[Jtullis13]

Thanks Ken

 

[California]

years ago,, ... Hey Wheel ? I have no idea of the cost ,or if they are still in business

I remember Hayes Wheels too. A nationwide chain of wheel specialists. There was a shop near me. They could fabricate anything you want from their stock of rims and separate centers.

Looks like they got gobbled up in the mergers & acquisitions tide a few years ago. I expect they are mostly an OEM supplier today.

Wheelmaker Hayes Lemmerz Bought for $725 Million

 

[284 International]

Hey Wheel out of Kansas has made oddball stuff for a friend before. The quality was excellent and the delivery time was quick. HEY WHEEL HOME-WHEELS, RIMS, AIRCRAFT TIRES FOR AG USE They will do virtually anything, even if it isn't listed on their website. Another choice would be to buy an adapter plate to take some other bolt pattern or hub size if you can find a well-priced set of rims and tires. An example would be this company: Online Adapter Quote. I have never done business with them. I know the owner of this place: 6 Lug Adapters : Tire Shop Supplies, Shop tools, wheel adapters and more but have never had any adapters made by them, either. They may be willing to take custom orders. The adapters are roughly 1.5" thick, which wouldn't be obtrusive on the rear, but may be enough different to affect the driveability if mounted on the front.

There are multiple options, it will merely be a matter of balancing headaches, time, money, and creativity to come up with an optimal solution.

 

[kenmac]

another thought.. In my previous life, I owned a drag race car.. I used front rotors off a ford pinto.. I took the rotors to a local machine shop and had them weld up the original stud holes ,and re-drill the rotors to fit my front wheels
If you know of a machine shop in your area, talk to them ,and see if this is something they could do for ya B-4 you purchase wheels

 

[Jtullis13]

Thanks for everyone's great ideas!! I'm going to check into all of them and see what would be the best route to take.

 

[Jtullis13]

Well I have found a set of rear wheels with new tires mounted already. The bolt pattern is not correct & the pilot hole is 1.25" to big. But I think this should work. Any thoughts? I can get them for $550. Also I,had my Ags filled today with Rim Guard today too. It was cheaper to have the guy come to me than for me to take it somewhere to have it done. It added approximately 490 plus pounds to my 2210d. Will let everyone know how works for me.

 

[kenmac]

well, If the center hole is too big, and the bolt pattern is off..They would be worth nothing to me.. Now ,if you have talked to someone (machine shop) that can weld them up ,and re drill them to fit at a reasonable price,, then they might be worth it

 

[Jtullis13]

Yep Kenmac I have a buddy that can do that. That's the only reason I thought about getting them.

 

[kenmac]

Yep Kenmac I have a buddy that can do that. That's the only reason I thought about getting them.

In that case, If they are what you want,, go for it