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<font color="blue"> .I just figure if the problem is in the manurfacturing then they owe it to me, </font>
I agree with you on that. I just can't see (1) that a rear main seal was causing the problem that you were having and (2) that it took that many hours for the damage seal to manifest itself. I'm not so sure that I believe the mechanic.
 
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I've seen rear main seals let oil out of a crankcase, but I don't know how they can let oil in /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Vince, it's simple gravity. The oil level in the gearbox is higher than the oil in the engine oil pan. when the seal let go, the two levels tried to equalize.

As far as who should have taken care of the problem, it was definitely Massey Ferguson who screwed up here. They should have backed up their product and paid the dealer to fix the problem. The dealer here also bears some responsibility if this happened with so few hours of run time after the purchase.

I think if it were me, I would try to find out who owned the tractor before I bought it to see what he experienced while he had the tractor. I have a sneaky suspicion that this may have happened before and may have contributed to the tractor being traded in the first place.

Seal's can leak at different rates depending on ambient temperature. The colder it is the more it will leak and the warmer it is it will leak less. I don't remember if dates were given in the original post of when this occurred and I could be barking up the wrong tree, but a pinched seal will always leak a little, especially if the vent tube is blocked or there is positive crankcase pressure. Since the hydraulic oil went into the engine, the pressure was in the tranny case and pushed the oil into the engine.

One other thing about shaft seals, they are cupped on the side facing the oil or any foreseen pressure. This actually forces the seal against the shaft as pressure rises to increase the quality of the seal. Pressure from outside the seal can pretty easily bypass a seal that is meant to keep oil in and contaminates out, which is the type normally used for a rear main seal.

But, all speculation on the cause aside, this was a MANUFACTURERS flaw and the MANUFACTURER should have paid for it.

Just my opinion

Nailerguy
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Vince, it's simple gravity. The oil level in the gearbox is higher than the oil in the engine oil pan. when the seal let go, the two levels tried to equalize. )</font>

There should be no oil in the bellhousing to equalize.
 
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Like Vince said, there is no oil there, except engine oil anywhere around that seal. There is the bell housing between the engine and the transmission. Someone is not telling every thing that they know about this deal. I really don't think that MF knows anything about it or not the truth. This is a lot of speculation that can be made about who's fault it is, but like I said there is things that we don't know about this.
 
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Its simple,I am no mechanic and can only go by what I was told. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifIt was a new tractor I purchase new in March of 2001,the boss and SE people were aware and still I was charged.They had it over 6 weeks and i needed to get things caught up.As a consumer I had to pay or else it sat there while I paid for it.I still love my M/F 1240 /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gifI just don't recommened the product nor the place I bought it from..... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gifTHEY REFUSE TO BACK THE PRODUCT THEY SELL>>SO WHY BUY THE PRODUCT>>>> /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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I didn't mean anything bad toward you. We as a whole don't have all of the information. Someone is not telling you the truth about what has gone on. Don't blame a good product because of a bad dealer. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Yum Yum that foot tastes sooooo good, /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I guess I should have asked first if the tractor was gear or hydrostatic, since I did'nt know./forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I guess when he said the rear seal was the problem, I made the mistake of assuming (bad bad bad) that it was a hydro or a shuttle of some type that would have oil in that area.

Sorry guys.

At this point, I agree with JerryG that we do not have all the facts of this story.

And by the way, what type of transmission does the tractor have?

Nailerguy
 

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