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California · May 11, 2006

( Are there any 80 mod. yanmars out there with only 4 HRS. on the meter. )

Sure! My 1980 Yanmar showed only 041 hours when I bought it in 2003. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

No telling if that is 041, 1041, 2041, 3041. Judging by the slight wear on the pedals and overall condition, and listening to the prior owner's story, I think this means one thousand hours but there is no way to know for sure.

More to the point I don't see anything predicting this thing will wear out in my lifetime.

arthr31 · May 11, 2006

You can bet that meter has been rolled back.

As already discussed here, and in other posts, it's dishonest. I think with a used car it's considered fraud... Don't worry though, it'll only take several hours of use to start to see what the real hours might have been... /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

arthr31 · May 11, 2006

( My 1980 Yanmar showed only 041 hours when I bought it in 2003. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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heh... my 169d has 007 hours on it. oh my gosh, I just put a new seat on it, greased it, and did a compound and waxing, should I put it up for sale as re-conditioned?!? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don't think so, i think that 007 is really more like 1007...

Jagmandave · May 11, 2006

Yeah, my 1602D showed 74 when I bought it........riiiiiiiiggghhhhttt.......... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

But then, mine's an '84 model......................

VT_Hokie · May 11, 2006

I see we are back to the hour meter discussion again... In the spirit of fruitfull dialogue, I still have not heard a logical progression from where the hour meter should come from on these recons. Take the tractor that was posted on a different thread that had a dead motor and tranny. Say they put in a motor from tractor B that has cracked frame and a tranny from tractor C that was wrecked. Which hour meter would you like? Which one would tell you the most about the tractor since it does not seem that recons have repair/recondition records? My neighbor that is in Ag Engineering here at Tech and taught at a school that rebuilt tractors as class projects, took a look at my Yanny when I first bought it. I told him that it had a new hour meter in it but probably had 1000 or even 2000 on it. He put it this way, you change the oil every 100 hours in a tractor and in a car you do it every 3,000 or so. So in car terms you have something that has 30 to 60 K on it. Not something to worry about since you are not making a living off of it. Piecing together tractors does take a little value out of that statement though. I totally agree that it is dishonest to put low/new meter in a tractor and pawning it off as "new from the factory" or "low hours". So in the end it comes down to dealer and what they stand behind...

greatrandini · May 12, 2006

I don't know why ur asking me these questions? They don't seem to follow anything I have been saying here?

kenmac · May 12, 2006

The question isn't intended just for you . It's for anyone that would have knowledge of why this is done on some vn. rebuilds. I just happen to post under your last statment . I don't think the HRS on a tractor would be an issue if it were explained to the buyer that the HRS had been rolled back & the reason , then let the buyer decide if they still want to buy.. Even If it is a new motor the rest of the tractor still has more than 4 HRS on it.

greatrandini · May 12, 2006

I agree with that. Some of the guys who rebuild vintage tractors install a new meter so they can keep track of how many hours since the rebuild. I was told my unit was built in 1977. I knew it had more then 4 hrs on it. I have heard on this board cases of people selling these tractors as "new". Fraud is the word that comes to mind. I also object to "as needed" in the discription. What the heck does "as needed" or "if necessary" mean? BS is what that means.. I looked at some used units locally before I bought my unit. They were rough. If I could have found an "A" tractor around here I bet I would have bought it. I prefer my recon unit to one that needs to be reconditioned. I do think my engine was rebuilt and I think they did a good job on the engine.

Jagmandave · May 12, 2006

Good point, I just use my hour meter as gauge of how many hours I've put on it, so I can schedule my own maintenance. It has nothing to do with the value of my tractor as I perceived it. Either it was worth the money as it stood, based on my own estimation of it's condition or not. Now, had the seller been representing it to me as actual hours, based on the paint and the overall condition, I would have been a fool to believe him..................newbie or not.

As it is, he lied about the maint work he had done too, and had I not been a newbie I coud have caught him in it, then the question becomes would I have bought it anyway? Who knows? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif