New "Mini" grapple for subcompact tractors.... ONLY 156lbs!

[Piston]

I just noticed a new grapple up on LandPride's website. The SGC05.

It looks like it's meant for the subcompact tractors, this would be perfect for those, and it's the first one I've seen that wouldn't affect lift capacity much... Not bad at only 156lbs!


Here is what is listed on the LP site, it sounds like it's meant to fit the BX models, not sure what the options are for other loaders.

Move brush, clean stalls, lift debris, and so much more with Land Pride痴 all new SGC0548 Claw Grapple. The SGC05 will make chores a breeze. Easily grasp, lift, and move a variety of materials making property maintenance easier and less time consuming.

Our SGC05 tines are manufactured from high-tensile AR400 Steel to make sure it stands up to demanding use. For added strength, the frame is made of 2" x 3" rectangular tubing. And it carries the Land Pride name, so you know quality is built in.

This American-made Grapple features a park stand for easy attach and detach. The 9" tooth spacing and a 30" jaw opening make this attachment a versatile tool to help you get work done.

The SGC05 Series Grapple weighs in at 156 lbs, only 24 lbs more than the standard BX bucket. With a stated lifting capacity of up to 518 lbs, a BX25D and SGC05 together can lift up to 360 lbs more than enough to make quick work of the largest jobs.

More info here: SGC05 Series Claw Grapples | Land Pride

This might even convince me to get a BX :dance1:


It's great to see more companies coming out with such useful equipment, and now for such a wide range of tractors :thumbsup:

Click here for inspiration http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/211635-grappling-fun-picture-thread.html

 

[bigtiller]

That is just so cool. I wonder what kind of money they sell for. When/if one comes out for a JD 200CX loader I'll be taking a really close look!!

 

[Egbert]

Looks like a very handy tool. My only concern would be that it could be easily over-stressed and twist up like a pretzel.

 

[GolfAddict]

At first I thought the BX had to have the new QA, but looks like you can also just pin on in place of the bucket. Wonder how reasonable they are...

 

[Piston]

I really don't think that bending and breaking a grapple would be a big concern. They built this grapple specifically for subcompacts which of course have relatively low lift capacity's to begin with, and are also light weight so I think you'd lose traction before bending anything. I don't know much about AR400 steel but supposedly it's stronger and less apt to break/bend than mild steel.

Of course, you can break just about anything if you really put your mind to it, so I"m sure it's not bullet proof, but I bet it takes more of a beating than it "looks" like.

I contacted Landpride yesterday, after posting this thread, and asked about availability for other tractors, specifically the JD 1025R that a friend of mine owns. Here is their response.

Thank you for contacting Land Pride. Our Engineering department is currently working on matching our SGC0548 grapple to other subcompact tractors. There are a number of different mounts on the market and we are making an effort to match as many as possible -- even if that means offering a blank plate for dealers to weld mounts on to.

To the best of my knowledge (and I tend to follow the "grapple" world) there is no other company making anything like this. (I hope someone proves me wrong).


Here is a pic from they're website.


And more info on a pdf...
http://www.landpride.com/ari/attach/lp/public/lit/lit_sgc05.pdf

I can't imagine how much more useful a subcompact would be a grapple like this. (keeping in mind lifting limits of course).

 

[bigtiller]

I just found out that Artillian has one on the drawing board. They have a 12 volt diverter valve kit for sale now that is made for several loaders but it is about $600.

 

[ishiboo]

I really don't think that bending and breaking a grapple would be a big concern. They built this grapple specifically for subcompacts which of course have relatively low lift capacity's to begin with, and are also light weight so I think you'd lose traction before bending anything. I don't know much about AR400 steel but supposedly it's stronger and less apt to break/bend than mild steel.

The only thing that would worry me is when people move long trees/wood/steel/etc. with a grapple. If not balanced properly it puts a TON of stress on the grapple and loader, and if you hit something with one end or somehow get hung up, you can do a lot of damage.

 

[kennyd]

I just found out that Artillian has one on the drawing board. They have a 12 volt diverter valve kit for sale now that is made for several loaders but it is about $600.

For everything thats included, and being all "plug-n-play" that is not a bad price IMHO for the diverter kit. Knowing Chris and his attention to detail I am sure the new grapple will be worth the wait.

 

[Piston]

The only thing that would worry me is when people move long trees/wood/steel/etc. with a grapple. If not balanced properly it puts a TON of stress on the grapple and loader, and if you hit something with one end or somehow get hung up, you can do a lot of damage.

This is the case with any grapple, on any size tractor. You can break things if you "try", but if your use a little common sense and understand the forces, you'll be hard pressed to do serious damage.


The pics above are just examples, but this "mini" grapple should be able to handle the same types of situations, just on a smaller scale.

 

[ishiboo]

This is the case with any grapple, on any size tractor. You can break things if you "try", but if your use a little common sense and understand the forces, you'll be hard pressed to do serious damage.

The pics above are just examples, but this "mini" grapple should be able to handle the same types of situations, just on a smaller scale.

Oh of course. You could very easily do the same with a regular bucket as well. Just saying if you do stupid **** it's fairly easy to over-torque things carrying long items.

 

[bandaidmd]

A 12 volt actuator option might have been something they should have also looked at. A lot of the homeowner types (no disrespect) are really intimidated with tapping into the hydros and the almost a grand of having the dealer install a diverter valve is quite high.

 

[Sodo]

I like this grapple, it would certainly make my BX more useful. Here it is on YouTube

However, adding a further $1000 to the grapple price (to adapt to the hydraulics) might not pay off. I think I'd do the install myself, but may prefer the lesser cost of a 12v version (if it exists).

No question hydraulic is better, but 12v would work well for such a simple operation. Comparable to the 12v electric lift on pickup snowplows, its tested and it works. If hydraulics can be added later (if buyer deems necessary) that would be ideal.

Does anybody know the cost of the LandPride SGC05 grapple? Cost of the 3rd function valve kit?

 

[Happy Gilmore]

4shorts any feedback on this? That stand you made for it looks mighty fine.

 

[4shorts]

4shorts any feedback on this? That stand you made for it looks mighty fine.

Thanks!
Yup. I bought the two components, grapple and 3rd function valve. Did the install and while I was doing the install I added a hydraulic thumb to the BX's mechanical thumb.

I am very impressed with the grapple. About the only part of it I was disappointed in was the fact that they didn't have ANY grease fitting in the thing. I removed the pins and added them so that's good now.

As for the 3rd function set up. Nice kit, poor instructions and I explain this in my videos. The disappointing part of the 3rd function kit that I didn't like is the FEL knob/switch. It's Hugh. So big in fact you have to cut two inches off the FEL lever to get it to fit like it should but that was only a few minutes. If by some chance you need to replace that switch alone in the future Land Pride is going to be asking around $450. Plus tax and shipping. When I was doing my thumb mod I thought about adding that switch to the back hoe of the BX but it wasn't cost effective so I built my own which worked out better.

The cost of both items will run most people in the $2000. area plus taxes. It's a nice system but when you get your 3rd function kit you'll find it odd that Land Pride throws it all into a brim bag and yes, the kit may have some damage to the valve because of it and there will be two male quick connects missing in the kit that you'll only discover after you start the install and you'll have to get those ordered if your dealer don't have in stock.

My dealer had three kits and all of them had those two quick connects missing. They are identified on the parts breakdown as #22 and there are supposed to be four of them in each kit. My dealer gave me two out of one of their kits to get me going.

After installing the kit and got the system running I found it was fast and paired up great with the BX' hydraulics. The first thing I picked up with it was a 55 gallon drum which it crushed. The thing is fast too and worked well with the other functions of the FEL. I'm looking forward to using it this spring.

One other thing. Although not necessary I built a cover out of aluminum to cover up the 3rd function kit to give it a cleaner look.

I'm glad I bought the grapple kit.Our BX25-D has the FEL quick connect and it's only a minute to go from bucket to grapple.
I also fabricated a wheeled aluminum cradle to the grapple so I could wheel it around the shed rather than struggle dragging it around. It weighs 135 lbs and is 25 lbs heavier than the
BX's bucket.
Hope this helps

Here's some photos and videos for your viewing pleasure

Grease fittings installed.

3rd function set up:

Fabricated aluminum cover for 3rd function kit.

Grapple Cradle.

 

[Happy Gilmore]

Thanks Paul, great description. Anyone know if the spacing for a LA181 loader off a BX1500 is the same as the current higher hp BXs as far as pinning on the bucket or am I out of luck with the LP grapple?

 

[jimed1]

Would someone that has one of these grapples please measure the distance between the cylinders. I would like to know if there is enough room to add JDQA loader brackets so I could use it with my 1026R.

 

[eddyjs62]

land pride's installation instruction for the third function valve shows for the BX 60 and 70 series only, would the 50 series be different

 

[tk tom]

Can you show the location of the 3rd function operation? Is it up on the loader valve or do you have to reach somewhere for it? I don't see the switch in the pics, just the mounting and cover. Thanks!

 

[k0ua]

Can you show the location of the 3rd function operation? Is it up on the loader valve or do you have to reach somewhere for it? I don't see the switch in the pics, just the mounting and cover. Thanks!

The joystick knob has been replaced by a new one with two switches on it. Look at the video at minute 5:50 he picks it up off of the table.