New motor on my Dixie Chopper zero turn cutter ??????

[Sportsman762]

JJ
I never meant to suggest that they fail in any order. What I was trying to convey is that they failed in a repetitively short time of one another (a season or two). I gave that as an example of what I had seen happen. They would fail in any order, normally with they hydro's failing first.
You are correct in saying that just because the motor failed that there is no proof that a hydro will fail. It is just that I have seen that when one (hydro or engine) then the others are not far behind. However it is difficult to tell when a hydro will fail as they have a tendency to fail catastrophically. My post is not as cut and dry as 2+2=4, but that my experience has shown with hydrostatic zero-turns with air cooled gas engines the engines and hydros have about the same life.
I hope this has shed more light on my original post.

 

[JRobyn]

The logic would be that once the ENGINE had accumulated enough run time/wear and tear, the hydro and all the other components will have ALSO accumulated the SAME run time and wear and tear. There is a great deal of engineering that usually goes into a product to determine what the time-to-failure is so that components can be matched as closely as possible (translated - made as cheaply as possible). The designers and engineers would get canned if they put out a product with an engine designed for 500 hours of life coupled with a hydro that was designed for 5000 hours of life. Remember the finding on Tuff-Torque K46 hydros that MTD INSISTED that TT NOT spend a dollar extra by using synthetic oil vs the cheaper dino?

- Jay

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I have a Dixie chopper and it came with a 25 HP Generac motor I just placed a 30 HP briggs motor on it. It fits like a dream I have yet to do the wiring I have a friend of the family that works for a mower company and he has done this before so he is going to run me throw the wiring in the morning my Generac motor has a shorter down shaft it is a horizontal and or vertical with a set of exploded piston rods my new briggs has a loner tail shaft then the generac but the generac came with a excitation the briggs has to have a ford solenoid to make up for the generacs starter with solenoid all you need is two bolts to bolt it to the left side finder holes are predrilled when you take the pulleys and clutch off the generac motor keep it in the same order but throw away the excitation the Briggs was 1359.99 out the door and a Generac was 2300.00 before taxes so to lose some wiring and just add a solenoid was worth not paying that extra and my 30 HP Briggs has a 2 year warrantee.

Dude, mix in some punctuation. That paragraph is one sentence that is impossible to read.

 

[Sportsman762]

The logic would be that once the ENGINE had accumulated enough run time/wear and tear, the hydro and all the other components will have ALSO accumulated the SAME run time and wear and tear. There is a great deal of engineering that usually goes into a product to determine what the time-to-failure is so that components can be matched as closely as possible (translated - made as cheaply as possible). The designers and engineers would get canned if they put out a product with an engine designed for 500 hours of life coupled with a hydro that was designed for 5000 hours of life.

Thanks this is what I was attempting to say, and failing at explaining.

 

[J_J]

My rebuttal is that I used Dixie Choppers for 20 years, and still have 3.

I never replaced a hyd pump or hyd motor.

I did replace one or two engines. All my engines were Kohlers.

I did replace two decks.

The thing I replaced most was front wheel bearings, primarily because of the sand here in florida.

I do believe I can speak with some experience on the Dixie Choppers.

I also don't believe they match wear factors into the setup.

You primarily match the powertrain for HP and torque to a rugged frame..

I never wore out a tire. but I patched many a tire , and then I installed that green slime and that helped a lot.

I also use MobileOne as the hyd fluid.

 

[JRobyn]

From JJ's experience, it would seem that Dixie Choppers indeed DOES use very high-quality hydraulic components designed for VERY long life. I stand corrected!

- Jay

 

[Sportsman762]

My experience was with Toro, Exmark and Scag. They seem to go kaput all at once.