New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price...

   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #31  
I've yet to find a shuttle shift skid loader.
I run a skid loader every day.
Its used for different things in much tighter areas than my tractor.
But I still like the shuttle on my tractor.
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #32  
I have 560 hours on my M8540 Hydraulic Shuttle. I dont regret getting a larger tractor over a CUT with HST. I do find the kubota hydraulic shuttle requires light brake pressure to get smooth controlled movement though when inching up to attachments or loading stuff in my trucks.

I'd recommend getting the larger machine if you think you need its capabilities. Nothing like going too small & regretting a purchase.

Most of propane fork trucks at work are shuttle or clutch transmissions they do precision work loading ballast boxes in pickup trucks all the time.
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #33  
I run a skid loader every day.
Its used for different things in much tighter areas than my tractor.
But I still like the shuttle on my tractor.

In tight quarters how long before the clutch blows compared to the HST?

I frequently grap something and creep forward and back ten times each way to free strawjacked logs from trees I want to keep. A shuttle would be a nightmare for my kind of work.
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #34  
In tight quarters how long before the clutch blows compared to the HST?

I frequently grap something and creep forward and back ten times each way to free strawjacked logs from trees I want to keep. A shuttle would be a nightmare for my kind of work.
All I know is with my 35 HP shuttle, I took my 15 over grown acres, cleared it, leveled, tilled and landscaped 8 acres for lawn, dug and rocked my own driveway (650' with big parking area), Installed the culvert ditches and pipe.
Dug all my own electric and water lines ( 900' and 650'). Dug the bank off out near the road.
Dug the foundation for my pole barn and swimming pole.
Dug/installed 1100' drain pipe on the property to get it to drain.
Plow snow with a 9' front snow blade. The list goes on and on.
Don't know how many hundreds and hundreds of tons of dirt, rock, sand, snow, Etc. I've moved over the 15 years, 2000+ hours I've had the tractor or how many thousands (possibly 10's of thousands) of forward/reverse shifts I've made.
I have yet to need the first clutch adjustment. ( dry clutch, not a wet clutch like a power reverser)
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #35  
In tight quarters how long before the clutch blows compared to the HST?

I frequently grap something and creep forward and back ten times each way to free strawjacked logs from trees I want to keep. A shuttle would be a nightmare for my kind of work.

One man's opinion. Not right, wrong, or the only one.
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #36  
RX for sure an plan on getting a small tractor also. Like a used B series Kubota, or your brand choice.

You will be surprised how well the two will play together for certain chores.
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #37  
In tight quarters how long before the clutch blows compared to the HST?

I frequently grap something and creep forward and back ten times each way to free strawjacked logs from trees I want to keep. A shuttle would be a nightmare for my kind of work.

Good question! I wonder when I will have to replace my first one!
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #38  
let's see....

I average about 400hrs/year on tractors (conservative # for a part-time farming operation). I use mostly one tractor, but always have had 2 or 3 on hand. All with dry clutches.

x about 25 years = about 10,000 hours of tractor driving.

One clutch was replaced in the Deutz 7110 after about 3000 hrs use by me and I don't know how much by the previous owner. Lots of loader time and baler time. Relatively very little tillage overall. So I'm guessing that clutch lasted more than 10 years. I was a little disappointed.

I have driven many hundreds of thousands of miles in standard shift pickup trucks. Probably way over a million miles. 2 clutches. One in a Dodge and one in a Ford. Oh, and replaced another in a GM as preventative maintenance since I had the tranny out anyway. I have an automatic right now. Easier to drive. Not even close to being better for driving. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

If you know how to drive and are physically able, having HST or gear should not be the issue. Buying the suitable machine should be. In the OP's case, I believe he will appreciate the extra weight, torque, capacities and overall build details of the RX far more than he would HST.

One day I will probably have HST (when I retire). I felt my knee just the other day when I was having to clutch lots. I don't have a clutchless reverser in my DK or my Deutz. BTW, this "sync shuttle shift" thing is not even as convenient as simply having a reverse on the regular gear shifter (comparing the Kioti to the Deutz or to any other tractor I've owned). At this point I would far rather clutch than listen to a whine. I am sensitive to buzzes and whines. They grate on me over a long day and exhaust me eventually.

IMO, the best series of tractor Kioti builds are the RX models. Many here buy the NX's instead. IDKW. Why would you want a lighter-duty tractor? I guess there are reasons, but most here choose the HST over the gear because they can't drive a clutch, IMO. A clutch in a tractor is easier to operate than in a car. Easier to wreck too....

Anyway, for those who care don't overlook the RX simply because of the HST thing. Don't.

Like I said, HST is neither "more accurate" nor "faster". That is BS. Less work; maybe. Easier to drive; maybe. "more accurate" and "faster"; I don't think so. Just don't let your foot slip off the clutch pedal...lol.

Another thing; these dinky little high revving engines are not the way to go in a tractor, IMO. Big engines turning heavy parts slower produce more quality torque for tractor work. The numbers do lie. I think my Perkins makes max torque at about 1350rpm or so. I think it makes more torque than many higher HP tractors with smaller displacement engines (like an M108S Kubota, for example). I like that. It is relaxing to drive when you can loaf along sometimes. Six cylinder tractors are nicer to drive than 4 cylinder tractors, IMO. We are going through a period where tractor engines are getting smaller and smaller and producing more and more power/inch. Power, not torque. The "feel" and capability is not the same.

Low RPM torque is always your friend and so is weight (almost always).

The plethora of HST machines on the market is due to market demand who are mostly non-equipment operators getting a tractor for the first time. Not due to "more accurate" or "faster". And let's be real; if it indeed does take a 1/2 second longer to change direction and you change direction 1000 times that works out to 500 seconds. Is 8 1/2 minutes in a 1000-direction-change day a lot for a weekend warrior? I spend more time than that in a day scratching my nuts and figuring out what to do next, lol.

Be safe out there!
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price...
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#39  
Decision was made, the RX7320 should be here today
 
   / New NX5510HC vs Barely Used RX7320 for about the same price... #40  
WooHoo!!

Check bolts...

-All loader frame bolts
-either loctite or continuously check loader pin keeper bolts until you have them bedded in.
-drawbar keeper pins and bolts. Mine would have fallen off if I didn't check. That could have been a real mess. I loctited those parts.
-3 point hitch pins and keepers.

I found Kioti's assembly to be generally really good(very few loose bolts). The stuff the dealer installed, not quite as good (draw bar, extra remote valves).

Make sure the air intake plumbing is good (no leaks or loose clamps or what have you), and that the filter is properly installed. If it doesn't have both an inner and outer filter, then get an inner if possible

You'll need a good filter wrench for the hydraulic filter(s).....

Obviously, check all fluids before ops.

Re-do the dealer's setup checks and more is what I am getting at.....

Check for rub points on all lines and rectify. My DK needed a couple of minor adjustments and one piece of heater hose to wrap an AC line.

Congrats!

I hope to buy an RX someday.

Nice tractor.
 

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